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Old 10-28-2010, 09:46 PM
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I have a question on some trim tags. I'd like to know if these are factory or not.

1966 - May 15th - Around VIN 24,000



1967 - December 12th - Around VIN 6,000



1967 - November 25th - Around VIN 4,500



My question is, is the 2nd '67 tag factory? It looks very crisp. The one discrepancy that I can see is the "Detroit Michigan" looks different compared to the '66 and the first '67 tag. I would have to think that after so many stampings that the letters would become some what deformed and cause the different look, since the 2nd '67 tag is relatively early. Or do they change out the plates after so many stampings. My first thought was that it was a Smith body and the other two were St. Louis but all three are St. Louis. What do you guys think? And if possible could you show your examples. Thanks

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Originally Posted by midnight02
I have a question on some trim tags. I'd like to know if these are factory or not.

1966 - May 15th - Around VIN 12,000

I'm certainly no expert but I would question this one (or mine ) or the VIN tag.

Mine is E13 with St. Louis convertible body number 3499.

My VIN sequence # is 11,0xx.

With your high body number, keeping in mind A.O. Smith coupes and convertibles, and St. Louis coupes, I'd expect your VIN sequence # to be well into the 20,000s
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I am not 100% sure, they look somehow different, I do see that they have been re-riveted, that does not look like the original rivets, I could be wrong, but that is just my opinion. Hope that that helps a little, someone else will be making their opinions as well, so you will know better.
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Originally Posted by nassau66427
I'm certainly no expert but I would question this one (or mine ) or the VIN tag.

Mine is E13 with St. Louis convertible body number 3499.

My VIN sequence # is 11,0xx.

With your high body number, keeping in mind A.O. Smith coupes and convertibles, and St. Louis coupes, I'd expect your VIN sequence # to be well into the 20,000s
Thanks Nassau, I looked at the VIN real quick and just mis-read it. I edited my first post.
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Here is one you can compare yours to. Very late 67.
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Originally Posted by midnight02
I have a question on some trim tags. I'd like to know if these are factory or not.

1966 - May 15th - Around VIN 24,000



1967 - December 12th - Around VIN 6,000



1967 - November 25th - Around VIN 4,500



My question is, is the 2nd '67 tag factory? It looks very crisp. The one discrepancy that I can see is the "Detroit Michigan" looks different compared to the '66 and the first '67 tag. I would have to think that after so many stampings that the letters would become some what deformed and cause the different look, since the 2nd '67 tag is relatively early. Or do they change out the plates after so many stampings. My first thought was that it was a Smith body and the other two were St. Louis but all three are St. Louis. What do you guys think? And if possible could you show your examples. Thanks
Second trim tag looks like my St. Louis body big block, and the body sequence is in line (my car is D22 body, car built 11/23/66). I will post a copy of the known-original trim tag when I get home tonight.
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If you want to learn about trim tags in great detail, buy the trim tag book that the NCRS has for sale.
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1966 - September 12, 1965 build
Purchased new at Hudson Chev in Racine, WI

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Originally Posted by SBR
If you want to learn about trim tags in great detail, buy the trim tag book that the NCRS has for sale.
Exactly. If you have that book and the trim tag in front of you, you can authenticate it in less than a minute. If all you have is a photo of the tag, all you can do is see if the numbers line up.
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Originally Posted by Revette
1966 - September 12, 1965 build
Purchased new at Hudson Chev in Racine, WI

What is the 10-65 stamped into your tag? Did the dealer do it at delivery?? I have a 66 that was delivered to the dealer in February 66 and I have 02-66 stamped into my VIN tag.

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Originally Posted by Jeff Garner
What is the 10-65 stamped into your tag? Did the dealer do it at delivery?? I have a 66 that was delivered to the dealer in February 66 and I have 02-66 stamped into mine.
Chevrolet asked the dealers to stamp the retail delivery date on the VIN plate in 1964 (that's why they added the "DD" embossment after "Chevrolet" on it, for "Delivery Date"), but the stainless was hard to stamp, and occasionally it broke the spot welds holding the plate on; some dealers stamped the delivery date on the trim tag instead, but most dealers just ignored the request, and Chevrolet finally gave up.
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Originally Posted by JohnZ
Chevrolet asked the dealers to stamp the retail delivery date on the VIN plate in 1964 (that's why they added the "DD" embossment after "Chevrolet" on it, for "Delivery Date"), but the stainless was hard to stamp, and occasionally it broke the spot welds holding the plate on; some dealers stamped the delivery date on the trim tag instead, but most dealers just ignored the request, and Chevrolet finally gave up.
I edited my earlier post for clarification. The 02-66 is stamped into my VIN plate, not my trim tag. It's the first one I've owned that had the delivery date stamped on the plate.
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Originally Posted by Jeff Garner
What is the 10-65 stamped into your tag? Did the dealer do it at delivery?? I have a 66 that was delivered to the dealer in February 66 and I have 02-66 stamped into my VIN tag.
Don Hutson (sorry, I said Hudson originally) was a former Green Bay Packer so he probably ran his dealership by the rules and his cars were date-stamped with the delivery date according to his interpretation of GM's guidelines.
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I was just thinking....D25 would have been the Friday subsequent to Thanksgiving, 1966. Would the St. Louis plant have been running that day?

From my 67 L-36 convertible:


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Here is my 1967 Trim Tag. It has a typo for paint, should be 983 AA.
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Here are the bogus trim tags that Chicago Corvette sells on eBay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1963-...item3cab9af5b9

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Originally Posted by SupremeDeluxe
I was just thinking....D25 would have been the Friday subsequent to Thanksgiving, 1966. Would the St. Louis plant have been running that day?
Yes. The day after Thanksgiving didn't become a UAW holiday until the 70's.

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Let me ask a question about a car I am looking at - it's a 67 roadster with a VIN which is around 9000 and the trim tag shows an AO Smith body around 700 is that possible that the body number could be that low - if not, and they look genuine, can anyone point to a possible reason for it? thanks
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Originally Posted by jerrykdc
Let me ask a question about a car I am looking at - it's a 67 roadster with a VIN which is around 9000 and the trim tag shows an AO Smith body around 700 is that possible that the body number could be that low - if not, and they look genuine, can anyone point to a possible reason for it? thanks
I have '67 A.O. Smith convertible tag images from just prior to that period; VIN 8224 (built 1/16) is A-495, and VIN 8629 (built 1/20) is A-514. With a VIN in the 9000 range, body A-700 or so sounds reasonable. Coupes and convertibles used different body number sequences, both at A.O. Smith and at St. Louis (4 different sequences).
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I looked at a 67 with a repo trim tag and found the aluminum it was made of was not as dense as the original when you pulled the top a little and let it go it sounded tinny, the original made almost no noise, the material is not the same.


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