hb9643

My Uncle has a big block CHEVY that has the following numbers on
the space on passengers side on the block. There are 2 numbers the
first is,T10271P the second is 6105586. Would appreciate any help.

Velox

Can you post a photo of the block pad? and what is the block cast number and cast date (rear ledge of block near bell housing mounting surface, early block may be on the passenger side). From what you indicate this MAY be Tonawanda engine plant assembly Oct 27, 1965 for 1966 Corvette number 5586, an early car. IP of course is the 425 HP suffix. So it would sure help to know if you have a 942 block there

Velox

I just HAD to click reply as Oct 27 is my birthday

Nowhere Man

that is a 66 427 block cast at the Tonawanda on October 27, 1965. built as a 427/425(450) RPO L72. used on a 1966 Corvette vin # 105586 that was built on November 12, 1965. the last 3 digits on the casting number should be 942

hb9643

The number on the Bellhousing is 3869942. Thanks for all the help. Looks like good
news.

Velox

Here's some even more interesting news. If you search for 194676S105586 (car could be roadster or coupe, I tried roadster first) you find for sale at ChevyUSA.com with a blue big block roadster in the pictures, rear sway bar and 6500 redline tach, big block hood, engine showing 425 decal, hmmmm.... wouldn't that just be something

hb9643

The car with that vin is sitting in my garage. It is my uncle's car and he will give it to me
if I promise to love and cherish it. I do !!!!! Can I say that it is a numbers matching car ??
You will never know how much help you all have been.

Velox

Is your uncle's car a coupe or roadster? If a coupe then the VIN should read 194376S105586 and if that is correct then you appear to have the original block there that goes with that car, and YES that is a very good thing. The roadster number for that partial VIN would be 194676S105586 and that shows up on google as for sale so it would not be the car in your garage as there should not be two of them ( ! ). And yes, 'numbers matching' but what is more important than the often cited 'numbers matching' is that you probably have the 'born with' block. Excellent!

hb9643

Hey Velox. I don't understand what you are getting to with the quote. The car is a 427
convertable. The couple of things that are different is the hood holder is on the right and the battery is also on the right. That could be because it is an early. I am a DAV and you
should see me trying to see if it has insulation, it does and 8 leaf. This car is mint. Had
a frame off 50 miles ago. I will post a picture if and when I can figure it out. Thanks to
all my vette heads for the help. HB

hb9643

PS the vin number is 194676s105586

Velox

What I am getting at is that the partial VIN indicated by the block numbers you gave... 6105586... identifies car# 5586, which could either be a roadster or coupe. 1966 VINS are 194676S1xxxxx roadster and 194376S1xxxxx coupe. So your engine there if an original 'born with' 427 would have had to come from one of those two cars as the IP suffix is ONLY for corvette 427/425 in 1966 model year. So if a roadster, that would be VIN 194676S105586 which if you Google that number you find a blue big block 1966 roadster for sale in multiple ads. So maybe your 427 was originally in that car. Or if coupe it would be 194376S105586 and that gives zero hits on Google. So if your car is a roadster, then something is weird here. The simplest answer would be for you to identify what the VIN is on the plate under the glove box door on the pass side next to the trim tag. What is it???

Mike Ward

HB- the phrase 'numbers matching' doesn't mean an awful lot anymore. It used to signify the original factory installed engine but today it is frequently used to mean a restamped replacement block or a hundred other slimy things.

This link infers that the car does not have it's original engine

http://www.carlisleauctions.com/vehi...p?id=334&sid=2

Velox

HB your VIN of 194676S105586 gives numerous Google hits as for sale, see for example here: http://hendrick-atlanta.ebizautos.co...d-7831183.html
Pics show a blue/white big block roadster.
There should not be two cars with the same VIN so that is why I said something is weird here. Unless your uncle's car is the one being listed as for sale on the internet, because that one has your same VIN number

Velox

And if that car in all the online for sale ads is in fact your uncle's car then YES you would appear to have the 'born with' engine block in your garage, a very big deal indeed, assuming the pad is original stamping

Mike Ward

How do you know it's not a well converted small block car. Jumping the gun a little?

Velox

Well let's see, partial block VIN identifies car #5586, if a roadster would have to have VIN 194676S105586. OP says he has a convertible. OP says yes that is his VIN. The fact that he says he is looking at a 942 block (427) with those pad numbers and IP suffix pretty much says that engine came out of a big block car, right? And as that VIN is listed online as a for sale roadster, than it should be a big block roadster since that engine came out of it, correct? See what I mean? No 'jumping the gun a little' here just basic logic. My big concern is what car is in his uncle's garage vs the car for sale online, if those are really two different cars with the same VIN then, well, you know

hb9643

Hey Mike I have a pretty good feeling the number matches the car by the vin. Why would
care to bust mu bubble. The Jays did beat the yanks last night. For a change!!
VELOX. I just talked with Hendrick and that is my Unc's car. They never took the ad off.
They are going to remove it. He bought the car for 59, so he had a good day. Since then he has had a stroke and thats why I will take over the car. Thanks for all the help. HB

Velox

OK HB sounds good! I figured that was probably the car you were talking about. Good luck with the car and have fun

hb9643

The problem is solved. That was unc's car. They just never took the ad off. Thanks for all the help. Even though our friend from the north tried to pour cold water on me, I am still thrilled and I thank you all for the help.

Mike Ward

No, I simply pointed you to link that states clearly (at least to me) that this car does NOT have it's original engine. If your uncle paid $59K for it as you stated, that's a good 40-50K off market price for an original engine car at a dealer. Accordingly, I think Velox is not doing you any favours by stating that the car has it's original engine.

http://www.carlisleauctions.com/vehi...p?id=334&sid=2

1966 Chevrolet Corvette Convertible

Event: 2008 Corvettes at Carlisle Auction

Consignment Type: Standard

Chassis VIN: 194676S105586

Exterior Color: Nassau Blue

Interior Color: White / Blue

Odometer Mileage:

Title Mileage:

Title Condition: None

Mileage Type: Exempt

Transmission: 4-Speed Manual

Original Engine: False

Engine CID/HP: 427 / 425

Reserve: True

Vehicle Description:

Frame off, Side pipes