cardo0

The definitions of dampner and damper seem to cross over depending on the reference source. But a damper as a harmonic ocillations control device seems absurd when most ventilation control valves use a damper as valve - not a dampner. Where as the term dampner is used when oscillations of any type are modified or controlled - usually reduced. I don't see how that would be humorous to anyone but the ignorant.

Yes as I mentioned the term of balancer is commonly misused. The device does way more dampening than balancing. But nomenclature just reflects how so few understand what it does let alone how to choose a replacement. Is it the right size? Will clear the timing tab? Does the crankshaft key slot line up the timing mark correctly. Most harmonic dampner information can be found through Google but nothing beats comparison with dimensions of the original device. And it's when someone wants to do the correct thing with the correct part is when they will actually listen - maybe argue too!

Robert61

Now that we've all been enlightened as to exactly what to call the harmonic damper balancer hub thingy I would caution on using any aftermarket cheapy. Possibly a pioneer would be ok but it's still an aftermarket from who knows where. GM invested a fortune is deciding what rubber to use. If your snout has a bad groove worn in it its not worth repairing. I've seen ones that had a deep groove repaired with a sleeve only to have the seal cut the sleeve in two. If you don't care about originality I would get any GM damper over an aftermarket. Just make sure the timing mark is correct as there are 3 different timing mark locations. You can remove yours if need be and buy a bolt on tab that is easy to install.

SWCDuke

I looked up "dampner" in my New College Edition American Heritage Dictionary... yes a real hardbound book! There is no such listing, but it does define the various uses of "damper" including "any device that eliminates or progressively reduces oscillations".

Another example is what is erroneously called "shock absorber". They are really mechanical dampers and the electrical analog is a resistor.

Duke

MikeM

I've heard engine blocks referred to as "cases". I've also heard of "short block and long block". Never heard of a long or short case!

I hear a loud explosion out the back is supposed to be called an "after fire". I'd guess because it is firing after it's supposed to? Where I come from, it was called a back fire because it fired out the back of the car.

Hope we get this straightened out soon.

Robert61

Well then if it pops back through the coberater is it a backwards back fire or a front fire.

cardo0

Try dampener which is how I should have spelled it! Just didn't bother.

dplotkin

Cylinder case to be exact, a description often found in shop manuals.

Dan

327carguy

These may be the two most important take a ways from this conversation. IMO. Pete aka 327carguy

MikeM

Ever heard of a "short cylinder case"?

MikeM

Ever heard of a "short cylinder case"?

dplotkin

[QUOTE=MikeM;1600615463]Ever heard of a "short cylinder case"?[/QUOTE

No. More curious to me would be what would immediately come to mind hearing it for the first time...a case for carrying my shorts? Beer steins? How about a low deck engine, Olds 350, Chrysler 383? This is why a common and proper use of language is important, especially at the auto parts or undergarment store.

Dan

SJW

That would be an up fire. Assuming a downdraft carburetor, of course.

Live well,

SJW

MikeM