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Old 03-27-2020, 11:44 AM
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Educate me please. Are these authentic, bad, or can't tell?

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I can't see the broach marks on the pad from the angle the photo was taken. It looks a little to perfect. The FI tag is a repo and I think the serial number it carries would be to early for a 65 car and way to early for a March built car to be the one installed from the factory. Most likely the fuel meter does not have the internal slosh baffle. If the FM has a nut with slotted screw on the main signal diaphragm cover then the baffle should be present but no guarantees. Minor point, the front bracket for the balance tube is attached with a slotted screw head, originals had a hex head with a triangle logo. Also 64 FI units had X nozzles, you may be able to see one of the nozzles markings. If the air meter has the vacuum port plug for the distributor advance that would be incorrect as that ceased being used after around serial number 1350 +/-. The VIN will not help ID any engine or trans configuration. I do not see the FI serial number or the VIN listed in Jim Gessner's data base.
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The engine pad looks original to me, built Mar 15 and car birthday Apr 16. Don't know anything about the FI.


HG = 65 327 375 FI,MT CORVETTE

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Thanks. Sounds like less than 50% chance it was born as a Fuelie.

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Originally Posted by BAD-L88
Thanks. Sounds like less than 50% chance it was born as a Fuelie.
I don't know why you would say that unless you know something you aren't telling.
I don't know anything about the fuel injection but just because the fuel injection may have been changed doesn't mean the car wasn't born as a fuelie. Doesn't mean it has either so maybe that's where you're getting the 50%.

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Default Another possibility ?

Many original FI cars were converted to carbs over the years due to lack of understanding about the FI units and few competent mechanics.

Possibly this car was one so converted and then more recently “restored” with a close attempt at the original FI?
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Are there any nut plates or anything like that you could look at and see if they look original. I had a 62 that was suppose to be a fuelie. One of the ways that I could tell it was not was it was missing a nut plate on the underside of the fender that held the air filter. Do not know about your year car. Maybe someone can tell you if any plates exist. I've had 2 fuel cars that were sold to me as a fuel car. Neither one was.
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the bozo who created the Rochester Products ID plate put the Serial No. in the Part No. box, and the Part No. in the Serial No. box.
That was dumb. Other than that, I'm sure everything else is correct with the car.

My Jan 64 FI car has ID plate no. 1791. This Mar 65 "FI" car would not have come from the factory with unit 1770 on it.
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Originally Posted by MOXIE62
Are there any nut plates or anything like that you could look at and see if they look original. I had a 62 that was suppose to be a fuelie. One of the ways that I could tell it was not was it was missing a nut plate on the underside of the fender that held the air filter. Do not know about your year car. Maybe someone can tell you if any plates exist. I've had 2 fuel cars that were sold to me as a fuel car. Neither one was.
Yes, 64 and 65 FI cars come with fender washer under one bolt, and large rectangular plate under the side by side bolts. The bolts all match with A headmark.


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Originally Posted by 65GGvert
I don't know why you would say that unless you know something you aren't telling.
I don't know anything about the fuel injection but just because the fuel injection may have been changed doesn't mean the car wasn't born as a fuelie. Doesn't mean it has either so maybe that's where you're getting the 50%.
Bored on lockdown here. Surfing car sites. Price sseemed to low for a true Fuelie in as nice condition as it was.

I know nothing else.

Just a guestimate.
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If the price is low, and with the goofs we can see here, It's a good guess this is a memorex fuelie. There were only 771 real ones. The real ones are still priced up there compared to other 65s (except L78). 6 figures to start for a done real one.
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From the photo provided, stamp pad looks good to me. If that's the case the car was born as a fuelie. Out of curiosity, how much are they asking for it?
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Engine pad looks good.

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Originally Posted by sw vette
from the photo provided, stamp pad looks good to me. If that's the case the car was born as a fuelie. Out of curiosity, how much are they asking for it?
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$70,000
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This one https://www.myhotcars.com/1965-chevr...ted-c-1771.htm
Injector probably is not original to the car, has the earlier air meter mentioned in previous post and no internal baffle on the fuel meter
VIN was stamped into plenum that did not happen until late 64 and 65
VIN and date stamps look fresh on the transmission and may not be in the correct location
Car equipped with knock-off wheels, side exhaust, FI, PW, teak wheel, radio, so at least one of these options is added
Nice looking 65, body has some fitment issues, paint looks good.
Without documentation, history of car, or verification VIN is original to the block by knowledgeable inspector it is a recreation. With just the photos and internet description $70k is a stretch
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Originally Posted by 65hihp
the bozo who created the Rochester Products ID plate put the Serial No. in the Part No. box, and the Part No. in the Serial No. box.
That was dumb. Other than that, I'm sure everything else is correct with the car.

My Jan 64 FI car has ID plate no. 1791. This Mar 65 "FI" car would not have come from the factory with unit 1770 on it.
I thought those stamps were backward. But I was holding off on my comment until I had the chance to verify. Nice catch.
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Old 03-27-2020, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Vitaminmopar
This one https://www.myhotcars.com/1965-chevr...ted-c-1771.htm
Injector probably is not original to the car, has the earlier air meter mentioned in previous post and no internal baffle on the fuel meter
VIN was stamped into plenum that did not happen until late 64 and 65
VIN and date stamps look fresh on the transmission and may not be in the correct location
Car equipped with knock-off wheels, side exhaust, FI, PW, teak wheel, radio, so at least one of these options is added
Nice looking 65, body has some fitment issues, paint looks good.
Without documentation, history of car, or verification VIN is original to the block by knowledgeable inspector it is a recreation. With just the photos and internet description $70k is a stretch
It does look nice, but of course it does, it's a C2!!
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Maybe someone on this thread can also elaborate on reasonable and plausible explanations that trim tags get bent, like the trim tag pictured above??? I'm not insinuating that the trim tag in this example was monkeyed with. I'm just asking for scenarios and or reasons why/how trim tags can get bent without being removed?
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Well, for sure the side pipes are not original.



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