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Old 04-27-2012, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by PUNISHER VETTE
awesome advice azzhat
You're welcome, lost soul. I won't stoop to your level by using veiled profanity. Although I sure did think it!

I wonder, almost on a daily basis, how folks learned about their Vettes before Al Gore invented the interweb.
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You're welcome, lost soul. I won't stoop to your level by using veiled profanity. Although I sure did think it!

I wonder, almost on a daily basis, how folks learned about their Vettes before Al Gore invented the interweb.
LOL. You know you're like 15min from my house.
Just come over and help me finish this thing already!

Then you won't have to hear my complain about not knowing how to do it anymore!!
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Originally Posted by 69 Chevy
You're welcome, lost soul. I won't stoop to your level by using veiled profanity. Although I sure did think it!

I wonder, almost on a daily basis, how folks learned about their Vettes before Al Gore invented the interweb.
People learn by asking questions and getting positive feedback.....not childish snide remarks by some pubescent jerk that has nothing better to do than stir the pot with his every post. Didn't have a lot of friends growing up huh? Get a life.....seriously.
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People learn by asking questions and getting positive feedback.....not childish snide remarks by some pubescent jerk that has nothing better to do than stir the pot with his every post. Didn't have a lot of friends growing up huh? Get a life.....seriously.
he lives near me and is probably bigger than me...better not make him any more mad or he might find me and beat me up



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LOL. You know you're like 15min from my house.
Just come over and help me finish this thing already!

Then you won't have to hear my (sic) complain about not knowing how to do it anymore!!
Hey, you asked for insight. I'm happy to oblige.

1. 15 minutes from Lancaster to Lehigh counties? Not even in your wildest dreams with a police escort.

2. You dived into this drivetrain swap feet first. Now lost motivation and possibly resources. Not my problem. I work on my own car in my spare time.

3. You complain? I read it as whining. Perhaps letting it sit for 4 weeks isn't enough? Go play golf and come back in another 4 weeks.
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Originally Posted by 69 Chevy
Lost motivation? Have you tried Claritin Clear? Their TV spots sound awful convincing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz8Cp...eature=related

Or perhaps you're in over your head without someone holding your hand every step of the way? Time to bail out.
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You're welcome, lost soul. I won't stoop to your level by using veiled profanity. Although I sure did think it!

I wonder, almost on a daily basis, how folks learned about their Vettes before Al Gore invented the interweb.
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Hey, you asked for insight. I'm happy to oblige.

1. 15 minutes from Lancaster to Lehigh counties? Not even in your wildest dreams with a police escort.

2. You dived into this drivetrain swap feet first. Now lost motivation and possibly resources. Not my problem. I work on my own car in my spare time.

3. You complain? I read it as whining. Perhaps letting it sit for 4 weeks isn't enough? Go play golf and come back in another 4 weeks.

What is your problem fool, I think with an attitude like yours and comments that aren't helpful in the least little way, your Azz should get off the INTERNET and go work on your car or something more productive than to stand on someone when they are feeling a little over whelmed. I really think the mods should suspend you from the forum since you have had nothing positive to add and continue to be a problem, rather than offering positive suggestions that would help a forum member move forward in their projects or build.


Now if you weren't such an Azz hat, know it all, and you live so close to the original poster, with all that wealth of knowledge you claim to have, you could possibly go over and lend a hand and actually be helpful, wouldn't that be a change pace for you.

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Originally Posted by PUNISHER VETTE
But I already have the harness and I hear it's just extend it and eliminate what you don't need lol...
I did see some company(speartech) a while back you could send your current harness into and they'd modify it...just not sure if it was worth the $450 to rework the harness and $300 for a reprogram...


as far as the reprogramming... I don't know anything about that.
I had my harness built and programmed at Speartech and John is the BEST in the businesses IMO. He is an ex-GM engineer who originally designed GM harnesses so he has vast knowledge and has a reputation among the best.

You can somewhat cut corners with these builds, but harness and computer programming in not where you want to do it.

For weeks I felt I was taking 2 steps forward and 3 steps back....hang in there man.

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I had a machine shop do my drive shaft for 60 bucks, that is cut and balanced. I measured 4 inches that needed to be cut off but I did a LT1/T56 swap. For your harness check these guys out, www.lt1350.com they do a LT1 and LS1 harnesses for a great price and leave wires labeled so you know what to hook your gauges up to as well as your battery, switched power and all that jazz. As for your hydraulic clutch you need the 85 3/4 ton master cylinder all you have to do is cut the shaft down and weld it back together or make a barrel nut and thread it to make it adjustable. For motivation maybe go drive a C5 corvette or a firebird with an LS1 in it and feel the power, that would get your heart pumping real quick!
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This is all wiring that you need to get the engine running. You need to break the job into smaller tasks and finish one at a time. The overall picture at this point in your project is overwhelming, but if you finish one thing at a time you will feel like you are making headway.

The critics have probably never rebuilt a whole car before.



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Edit: You didn't seem to ned the wiring diagram so I removed it.

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Old 04-27-2012, 10:08 PM
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Question about the hydraulic clutch setup.

When i bought my swap they included the 02 trans am clutch MC...

I saw that someone made a bracket that mounted the two and corrected the wrong angle for their MC... I'm just wondering what'll be easier.

Finding and modifying a truck MC or getting a bracket made if my trans am MC might work...
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I personally think the truck MC is way easier, with the bracket you are going to have to get the measurements exact for the angle or else have premature wear. With the truck MC all you have to do is cut some of the length out of the rod, it took me all of 15 minutes to mock up the truck mc, measure where it needed to be cut, cut it, weld it, and actually bolt it into the car.
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Not sure, but thought this might be worth a look...

http://vettaid.com/WireHarnesses.aspx
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Suck it up...git er done! You weak, pathetic, whining baby......is that ALL you've got done?
How's that for motivation.....want to choke me and finish the car huh?
Just kidding....you have done an awesome job, and I can't wait to see your project on the road.....and hear it...it is going to be a street eating, earth pounding, hold on to your seats ride........have fun.
PS....if I were closer I would bring a cold one and help...
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Thanks for the motivation guys! I guess what it's starting to look like is all the things I still need to do on it need parts bought... and me being so cheap isn't helping things...

Can the stock manifolds work for a while till i get the thing running? I haven't put them up to see if they clear or not yet.

driveshaft is just a matter of finding the yoke i need then measuring...

finding an 85 truck clutch MC...

making PS pump lines.

I'm definitely going to farm out the computer... I'll know by the end of this weekend if I want to tackle the wiring yet or not. Might be worth buying it just to keep me going a lot quicker and easier.

Anyone know of gauges that fit the C3 that work with the LS1? Seems like most are modifying their dashes to accept gauges...and I don't really want to have mine reworked...
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Originally Posted by PUNISHER VETTE
Thanks for the motivation guys! I guess what it's starting to look like is all the things I still need to do on it need parts bought... and me being so cheap isn't helping things...

Can the stock manifolds work for a while till i get the thing running? I haven't put them up to see if they clear or not yet.

driveshaft is just a matter of finding the yoke i need then measuring...

finding an 85 truck clutch MC...

making PS pump lines.

I'm definitely going to farm out the computer... I'll know by the end of this weekend if I want to tackle the wiring yet or not. Might be worth buying it just to keep me going a lot quicker and easier.

Anyone know of gauges that fit the C3 that work with the LS1? Seems like most are modifying their dashes to accept gauges...and I don't really want to have mine reworked...
I don't see why stock manifolds wouldn't work....may hurt performance a little but if your not ripping it's guts out all the time..... who cares?
But, you might spend a little time on ebay or craigslist and find some headers worth the money..
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Just a little piece of advice, If you intend to upgrade any certain pieces of the LS shortly after the car is running, don't waste your money on buying parts that will just get you by for the moment, be sure to get your money's worth out of each additional part you have to by for the LS, it will be money well spent in the long run. Even if it means the build takes longer do to the added expense, you will be much happier at the end of the build.




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Originally Posted by riggs 74
Just a little piece of advice, If you intend to upgrade any certain pieces of the LS shortly after the car is running, don't waste your money on buying parts that will just get you by for the moment, be sure to get your money's worth out of each additional part you have to by for the LS, it will be money well spent in the long run. Even if it means the build takes longer do to the added expense, you will be much happier at the end of the build.




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examples?

That's how i'm trying to do things somewhat. I really want side pipes but am not looking to spend the $1500 right now and still have to modify them to get this thing running. Was thinking I could run open manifolds for free and see if it runs. Then maybe mock up the old mufflers if i wanted to drive it a little...

gauges should work for whatever i do in the future if they're digital and mount in the stock locations....

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I know it's vague, but every thing. Any time you spend on something to just get the car running, instead of holding out for the parts you really should buy. I have learned not to just get by, but to wait until I was fully prepared and fully funded to achieve the exact goal I set forth in the beginning of my journey, the end results are much more satisfying.

If you are adapting an old set of side pipes to the LS with new header flanges, now is the time to do that since you have the most access with the body off, Wait did I see That you already put the body on?

Also, as far as running the side pipe's, you may want to reconsider running a full exhaust. I have mine ran as a full exhaust, with electric cut outs just behind the trans cross member, although it sounds nice at Idle, it gets really loud and annoying, real quick. I have found that the full exhaust that I am running, sounds way better than the open cut outs, which would be the same as side pipes, but only you will not have an off switch to the excessive noise that gets old real quick. That will end up as wasted money in the end.

You may want to get an opinion from someone running side pipes with an LS, Someone like KAOS.

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Originally Posted by riggs 74
I know it's vague, but every thing. Any time you spend on something to just get the car running, instead of holding out for the parts you really should buy. I have learned not to just get by, but to wait until I was fully prepared and fully funded to achieve the exact goal I set forth in the beginning of my journey, the end results are much more satisfying.

If you are adapting an old set of side pipes to the LS with new header flanges, now is the time to do that since you have the most access with the body off, Wait did I see That you already put the body on?

Also, as far as running the side pipe's, you may want to reconsider running a full exhaust. I have mine ran as a full exhaust, with electric cut outs just behind the trans cross member, although it sounds nice at Idle, it gets really loud and annoying, real quick. I have found that the full exhaust that I am running, sounds way better than the open cut outs, which would be the same as side pipes, but only you will not have an off switch to the excessive noise that gets old real quick. That will end up as wasted money in the end.

You may want to get an opinion from someone running side pipes with an LS, Someone like KAOS.

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I take the body on/off all the time... takes about an hour or two and satisfies questions I have usually... like tunnel clearance with the T56.. body is back off after checking that! And I'll put it back on and drive this thing a little this summer but really it needs to stay off and get the engine bay cleaned up and painted....

Loud is good! But I know what you're saying it does get old fast. I've only driven this corvette for less than 75 miles in the 2 years i've had it it's hard to say what i'll like best. I found a really used set of hooker side pipes for $400 on craigslist i might try and get... i might be able to experiment with fitting them and seeing how they sound.

I've already made some of the mistakes you're talking about. fixed up my old 350 motor a little before buying the LS1. and don't plan on sticking with just an LS1 if I like it alot i was thinking of an LS2/3 might be in my future...distant future. But if that's the thinking the whole car falls under that scenero... I don't like the coupe all that much and would prefer a vert or even a late C2 to fix up next lol

Even though I haven't looked into it a whole lot yet today I think I should really try to do the wiring myself. Seems like plenty of info out there to help... I just need to dive in and start! I'm assuming most leave the old wiring for the other items and just hook both to the +.
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Did some work today!!!!!!!!!!
Not much but something.

Finally welded my crossmember so the T-56 can sit on it correctly.
Went the super cheap/easy method and just cut the crossmember in 1/2 then welded it to what was left over... Still thinking about filling in the gaps I left to bring some strength back into it.

Don't rag on my welding... it is my first actual weld that wasn't a spot weld!!!!!


And somewhat finished tapping the waterpump!
Having never used NPT stuff should I tap so the new nipples tighten flush or will I be okay leaving them somewhat out where they're at and just put some thread lock on them?


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