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Old 12-08-2023, 09:35 PM
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I remember reading another thread about these cars...maybe a year or so ago? Lots of discussion on the tank stickers
Old 12-08-2023, 09:44 PM
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You could always build your own...

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-2-1-69-a.html
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My take is that it wasn’t born a ZL-1.

No mention of J-50, J-56, or F-41 mentioned on the build order. There is one documented 1969 L-88 that came through without J-56, but it was a COPO order and identified as such on the tank sticker. This one isn’t.

No VIN derivative on the pad. My guess is that if there was a better photo of the pad, it wouldn’t hold up to scrutiny.

Heaters were required on all Corvettes built 1968 and after. A defroster was mandated by federal law on all 48 state U.S. cars… Which necessitated a heater. Hawaii/Alaska and Canadian L-88s were an insignificant number… They all got heaters.

In 1967-1969, M-22 equipped L-88s received an aluminum radiator without a fan shroud. 1969 M-40 equipped L-88s received a copper radiator and most received fan shrouds.

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Old 12-08-2023, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by PRFKT69VET
Another curious thing on the tank sticker is the axle ratio is listed twice in the comfort section but not at all up top. It's the same way on the orange one.
It’s listed twice because one is for the positraction option (G-81), the second was for the “performance” rear axle (GS-3? in this case).

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Everybody here is pretty informative on these cars. I think there was one around the Pittsburgh area not too long ago. But I have one question. How the hell does someone lose a piece of documentation that is literally worth hundreds of thousands of dollars?
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Old 12-08-2023, 10:42 PM
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Is that a "Performance" optional rear end ratio? I know later model vettes had a RPO G-92 "performance" ratio...
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Originally Posted by charliedents
Everybody here is pretty informative on these cars. I think there was one around the Pittsburgh area not too long ago. But I have one question. How the hell does someone lose a piece of documentation that is literally worth hundreds of thousands of dollars?
Nah....This would be a 3 million dollar car if it rolled out of the door in St Louis with this engine in it...
Like losing a lottery ticket...
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Originally Posted by n2h2o2
Is that a "Performance" optional rear end ratio? I know later model vettes had a RPO G-92 "performance" ratio...
Yeah, I remember the Camaros and Firebirds of the late 1980s/early 1990s with the G-92 axle. Depending upon how the car was ordered (I.e., no air conditioning), ordering G-92 triggered the 1-LE option… Basically a showroom stock race car. Pretty cool stuff back then.

The 3.36 rear axle WAS the performance ratio with the M-40 transmission in a Corvette… That was the lowest ratio that you could get with that drivetrain combination. Kind of strange since solid lifter Camaros/Chevelles could get a 4.10 with the M-40.

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Originally Posted by PRFKT69VET
Another curious thing on the tank sticker is the axle ratio is listed twice in the comfort section but not at all up top. It's the same way on the orange one.
That is typical and correct for cars with automatics.

Also if you look carefully you can see the car was ordered with a radio.
Here is a closeup of the tank sticker and you can see where I pointed the arrows the letter A in the RPO code area on the radio line as well as the tops of the wording by the edge of the torn section.



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Old 12-08-2023, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Rowdy Rat
It’s listed twice because one is for the positraction option (G-81), the second was for the “performance” rear axle (GS-3? in this case).

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Hey Stan,
Thanks for getting in on this car.
What he was referring to was that it was listed twice on the bottom. They list them twice as you stated correctly but for some reason on automatic cars they list them both on the bottom instead of one on top and one on bottom. Just the way the programmed that option to print out on the IBM machine.
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If it was real the bidding would start north of 5 million. I believe the car was an L71 car originally,. Cool color combination!
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Originally Posted by 99FRC Newb
It’s not the orange convertible or the yellow hard top.

It’s also not listed for a million dollars.

This is a normal ‘69 with the aluminum 427 in it.
The yellow coupe is a documented factory built ZL1 the orange convertible is not. The consensus is that the car started out as an L88 M40 car.
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The car is a super cool car and would be fun to own, sounds great! The car has J56 calipers but no power brakes. 9 leaf spring and it does not have the F41 suspension option. Looking at the tank sticker it has the posi-traction axle listed twice, which is correct for an L71, L89 or L88 M40 car that had the CY high shift point transmission. In my opinion it left the factory as an M40 L71 car with a radio.
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Old 12-10-2023, 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ed427vette
That is typical and correct for cars with automatics.

Also if you look carefully you can see the car was ordered with a radio.
Here is a closeup of the tank sticker and you can see where I pointed the arrows the letter A in the RPO code area on the radio line as well as the tops of the wording by the edge of the torn section.

If you zoom in on the rear deck , you can see where the radio arial hole was filled in and now has cracked around the edge of the bog .
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Old 12-10-2023, 08:52 AM
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The hood doesn't quite look correct either looks like hand laid fiberglass. The conversion was definitely done a long time ago just curious that no one remembers this car out in California.
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Old 12-10-2023, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by bazza77
If you zoom in on the rear deck , you can see where the radio arial hole was filled in and now has cracked around the edge of the bog .
Most (if not all) of the radio antenna holes are filled in on non radio equipped cars after 1968. Since most of the cars were coming through with radios, the factory found it more expedient to lay up all of the panels with holes and fill the the non radio cars than to drill holes for every radio equipped car. The fact that there is a filled hole on a 1969 isn’t an immediate concern, however, the factory did fill them in a particular way so an inspection under the rear deck is always in order.

Nice catch on the tank sticker Ed!

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Yes, there are two but what does GM say?


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Originally Posted by ifitgoesfast
Yes, there are two but what does GM say?

The ZL-1 label certainly looks fresher than the rest of the console. You could buy real ZL-1 labels at the Chevy dealer at one time. I have an NOS one..
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I don’t know about this one, but I wish I could have bought this ZL-1 for $5,000 brand new back then. It say unsold in the dealer for $10,000.

https://www.rogerscorvette.com/spots/feb98/spot.htm


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