Post Your Ruff Racing Wheel Pictures Here!!
02-20-2008, 09:52 AM
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02-24-2008, 08:25 PM
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03-09-2008, 11:41 AM
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This is one awesome set up and looks great. I have sent you a PM. Wondering what size wheels front and rear and widths, what make and sizes of tires, and if you have lowered or not, and if so, on stock bolts how far or aftermarket lowering bolts and how far.
Any rub problems or did you have to modify for the wheel and tire set up.
Car looks great.
Any rub problems or did you have to modify for the wheel and tire set up.
Car looks great.
03-09-2008, 02:57 PM
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Sorry, but those tires are clearly sticking out. The fenders will be cracked/damaged when they come in contact with the tires when
hitting a dip/bump in the road.
Russ Kemp
hitting a dip/bump in the road.
Russ Kemp
03-09-2008, 03:18 PM
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So you would know if this guys tires hit the fenders on his car huh. 
Doesnt look like it from the pictures. Some of us dont beat the snot out of our cars. We care for them like they should be.
I have run 275/35/18 on 9-1/2" wheels in fronts, and 295/35/19 on 11" wheels in the rears and NEVER had a problem. I am guessing these are not much different.
I will wait for a responce from the owner, instead of your opinion. But thanks for your observation, as if others had not been able to see that.
Doesnt look like it from the pictures. Some of us dont beat the snot out of our cars. We care for them like they should be. I have run 275/35/18 on 9-1/2" wheels in fronts, and 295/35/19 on 11" wheels in the rears and NEVER had a problem. I am guessing these are not much different.
I will wait for a responce from the owner, instead of your opinion. But thanks for your observation, as if others had not been able to see that.
03-09-2008, 03:35 PM
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I am certain the offset on the front are +35 and the rears are +45 so they done even come close to what you are referrring to. Again I will contact the owner and get his input.
03-09-2008, 05:10 PM
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Russ I have done more then a little research on wheel offsets, and I am going to break some things down for you... You constantly bash Ruff wheels... Now that I have your specs I can do this.
You say you have a 19x11 inch rim in the back with a 65mm offset. OK well this works out like this:
Your Rears:
11" = 279.4mm
Half of 279.4 = 139.7mm which is the wheels centerline.
Now take your offset out of this:
139.7mm - 65mm = 74.7mm
The 74.7mm is basicaly how far the wheel sticks out from the hub...
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Now your fronts:
9.5" = 241.3mm
Half of 241.3mm = 120.65mm which is the wheels centerline.
Now take your offset out of this:
120.65mm - 59mm = 61.65mm
The 61.65mm is basicaly how far the wheel sticks out from the hub...
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Now take a Ruff 19x9.5.....(Rear)
9.5" = 241.3mm
Half of 241.3mm = 120.65mm or the wheels centerline
120.65mm - 45mm(offset) = 75.65mm
The 75.65mm is how far the wheel sticks out from the hub.
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Now take a Ruff 19x8.5.....(Front)
8.5" = 215.9mm
Half of 215.9mm = 107.95mm or the wheels centerline
107.95mm - 35mm(offset) = 72.95mm
The 72.95mm is how far the wheel sticks out from the hub.
Shaved 3mm = 69.95mm which isn't bad.
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Now you take a Ruff 19x9.5 rim that is shaved with a 48mm offset, the Ruff actually sits 72.95mm off the hub. Which beats you as far as sticking out in the back...
The Ruff 20x10's with a 48 offset are a little worse then your setup. They come in at 79mm off the hub. Which is about 4mm farther out then your setup. This is about 1/8th of an inch more.
Fronts on the Ruff at best will be 69.95mm which puts it out 1/3rd of an inch farther then yours. If you think this is going to be a problem here is a pic of a non-shaved 35mm 19x8.5 front:
From most of your posts I have seen you talk about the rears sticking out not to your liking. I have shown this obviously is not the case with a comparison to yours. If the width of ruffs are a problem for you, not an issue have them widened for $100-200 each to 19x11's for the rear and 19x9.5's for the front. With the offsets they provide and that your are only widening the back of the rim everything will still work and I can almost bet you will be way under on price even with widening compared to your OZ Superleggera wheels.. Just my .02
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03-09-2008, 05:54 PM
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ackman,
I hope your not actually calling me a liar. You obviously have no idea about wheel fitment on a C5. The stock C5 17x8.5 front wheel has a +56mm offset, thus the center of the tire tread will then be 20mm further inboard than a +36mm Ruff wheel REGARDLESS of the wheel width. The stock C5 ZO6 17x9.5 front wheel has a 54mm offset, thus the center of the tire tread will be 18mm further inboard than a +36mm Ruff wheel REGARDLESS of the wheel width.
The stock C5 18x9.5 rear wheel has a +65mm offset, thus the center of the tire tread will stick 20mm further outboard than a +45mm Ruff wheel REGARDLESS of the wheel width. The stock C5 ZO6 18x10.5 rear wheel has a +58mm offset, thus the center of the tire tread will be 13mm further inboard than a +45mm Ruff wheel REGARDLESS of the wheel width.
Ruff makes good looking wheels, just too bad they don't make them in the correct offsets for a C5. But if you don't mind having the tires stick out on your own car, thats fine, just don't confuse someone looking to buy new wheels with the wrong offsets.
Russ Kemp
I hope your not actually calling me a liar. You obviously have no idea about wheel fitment on a C5. The stock C5 17x8.5 front wheel has a +56mm offset, thus the center of the tire tread will then be 20mm further inboard than a +36mm Ruff wheel REGARDLESS of the wheel width. The stock C5 ZO6 17x9.5 front wheel has a 54mm offset, thus the center of the tire tread will be 18mm further inboard than a +36mm Ruff wheel REGARDLESS of the wheel width.
The stock C5 18x9.5 rear wheel has a +65mm offset, thus the center of the tire tread will stick 20mm further outboard than a +45mm Ruff wheel REGARDLESS of the wheel width. The stock C5 ZO6 18x10.5 rear wheel has a +58mm offset, thus the center of the tire tread will be 13mm further inboard than a +45mm Ruff wheel REGARDLESS of the wheel width.
Ruff makes good looking wheels, just too bad they don't make them in the correct offsets for a C5. But if you don't mind having the tires stick out on your own car, thats fine, just don't confuse someone looking to buy new wheels with the wrong offsets.
Russ Kemp
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03-09-2008, 06:25 PM
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Russ,
My original question was quite simply what sizes were being run on the car in the photos. It had nothing to do with how far a wheel & tire combination sticks out. You chose to throw your opinion in the equation and as other have indicated you took the oppotunity to bash the Ruff wheel. If you dont like it, the offset, that they are round, that they have 5 lugs nuts, are chrome, black, white, pink, or orange etc... that is fine, just move on to the next thread.
In my opinion it has a nice look to it. There is nothing wrong with it, contrary to your opinions on sticking out to far, hitting the fenders when you hit a big hole, etc... Some of us are putting them on to enhance the appearance and because we like the style, and appearance and we are paying attention to the roads we drive on to insure that tires wont hit fenders and such. Do you go to various threads on lowering and aftermarket spoilers, ground effects on cars, etc.. and tell people that if you do these things to your car, you will hit when you go over speed bumps, and hit pot holes. Its all the same.
Since you have given your opinion on my question I will give you mine on your reply that included specs on your wheels, those things are butt ugly. Just my opinion on your wheels and your insight, as you included by chiming in on my question.
I dont see Ruff misleading anyone on what they are providing. We all have our own opinions on what we like, and dont like, and I will just neglect to take any of your information into consideration.
My original question was quite simply what sizes were being run on the car in the photos. It had nothing to do with how far a wheel & tire combination sticks out. You chose to throw your opinion in the equation and as other have indicated you took the oppotunity to bash the Ruff wheel. If you dont like it, the offset, that they are round, that they have 5 lugs nuts, are chrome, black, white, pink, or orange etc... that is fine, just move on to the next thread.
In my opinion it has a nice look to it. There is nothing wrong with it, contrary to your opinions on sticking out to far, hitting the fenders when you hit a big hole, etc... Some of us are putting them on to enhance the appearance and because we like the style, and appearance and we are paying attention to the roads we drive on to insure that tires wont hit fenders and such. Do you go to various threads on lowering and aftermarket spoilers, ground effects on cars, etc.. and tell people that if you do these things to your car, you will hit when you go over speed bumps, and hit pot holes. Its all the same.
Since you have given your opinion on my question I will give you mine on your reply that included specs on your wheels, those things are butt ugly. Just my opinion on your wheels and your insight, as you included by chiming in on my question.
I dont see Ruff misleading anyone on what they are providing. We all have our own opinions on what we like, and dont like, and I will just neglect to take any of your information into consideration.
ackman,
I hope your not actually calling me a liar. You obviously have no idea about wheel fitment on a C5. The stock C5 17x8.5 front wheel has a +56mm offset, thus the center of the tire tread will then be 20mm further inboard than a +36mm Ruff wheel REGARDLESS of the wheel width. The stock C5 ZO6 17x9.5 front wheel has a 54mm offset, thus the center of the tire tread will be 18mm further inboard than a +36mm Ruff wheel REGARDLESS of the wheel width.
The stock C5 18x9.5 rear wheel has a +65mm offset, thus the center of the tire tread will stick 20mm further outboard than a +45mm Ruff wheel REGARDLESS of the wheel width. The stock C5 ZO6 18x10.5 rear wheel has a +58mm offset, thus the center of the tire tread will be 13mm further inboard than a +45mm Ruff wheel REGARDLESS of the wheel width.
Ruff makes good looking wheels, just too bad they don't make them in the correct offsets for a C5. But if you don't mind having the tires stick out on your own car, thats fine, just don't confuse someone looking to buy new wheels with the wrong offsets.
Russ Kemp
I hope your not actually calling me a liar. You obviously have no idea about wheel fitment on a C5. The stock C5 17x8.5 front wheel has a +56mm offset, thus the center of the tire tread will then be 20mm further inboard than a +36mm Ruff wheel REGARDLESS of the wheel width. The stock C5 ZO6 17x9.5 front wheel has a 54mm offset, thus the center of the tire tread will be 18mm further inboard than a +36mm Ruff wheel REGARDLESS of the wheel width.
The stock C5 18x9.5 rear wheel has a +65mm offset, thus the center of the tire tread will stick 20mm further outboard than a +45mm Ruff wheel REGARDLESS of the wheel width. The stock C5 ZO6 18x10.5 rear wheel has a +58mm offset, thus the center of the tire tread will be 13mm further inboard than a +45mm Ruff wheel REGARDLESS of the wheel width.
Ruff makes good looking wheels, just too bad they don't make them in the correct offsets for a C5. But if you don't mind having the tires stick out on your own car, thats fine, just don't confuse someone looking to buy new wheels with the wrong offsets.
Russ Kemp
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03-09-2008, 07:21 PM
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ackman,
I hope your not actually calling me a liar. You obviously have no idea about wheel fitment on a C5. The stock C5 17x8.5 front wheel has a +56mm offset, thus the center of the tire tread will then be 20mm further inboard than a +36mm Ruff wheel REGARDLESS of the wheel width. The stock C5 ZO6 17x9.5 front wheel has a 54mm offset, thus the center of the tire tread will be 18mm further inboard than a +36mm Ruff wheel REGARDLESS of the wheel width.
The stock C5 18x9.5 rear wheel has a +65mm offset, thus the center of the tire tread will stick 20mm further outboard than a +45mm Ruff wheel REGARDLESS of the wheel width. The stock C5 ZO6 18x10.5 rear wheel has a +58mm offset, thus the center of the tire tread will be 13mm further inboard than a +45mm Ruff wheel REGARDLESS of the wheel width.
Ruff makes good looking wheels, just too bad they don't make them in the correct offsets for a C5. But if you don't mind having the tires stick out on your own car, thats fine, just don't confuse someone looking to buy new wheels with the wrong offsets.
Russ Kemp
I hope your not actually calling me a liar. You obviously have no idea about wheel fitment on a C5. The stock C5 17x8.5 front wheel has a +56mm offset, thus the center of the tire tread will then be 20mm further inboard than a +36mm Ruff wheel REGARDLESS of the wheel width. The stock C5 ZO6 17x9.5 front wheel has a 54mm offset, thus the center of the tire tread will be 18mm further inboard than a +36mm Ruff wheel REGARDLESS of the wheel width.
The stock C5 18x9.5 rear wheel has a +65mm offset, thus the center of the tire tread will stick 20mm further outboard than a +45mm Ruff wheel REGARDLESS of the wheel width. The stock C5 ZO6 18x10.5 rear wheel has a +58mm offset, thus the center of the tire tread will be 13mm further inboard than a +45mm Ruff wheel REGARDLESS of the wheel width.
Ruff makes good looking wheels, just too bad they don't make them in the correct offsets for a C5. But if you don't mind having the tires stick out on your own car, thats fine, just don't confuse someone looking to buy new wheels with the wrong offsets.
Russ Kemp
One thing you said that is completely wrong is "REGARDLESS of the wheel width". Offset and width play together hand in hand. Please refer to the illustration above....
An good example of this would be say a ruff wheel that is a 19x9.5 on a 45mm plain offset. Lets say you send this rim out to get widened 1.5 inches. To make it an 11 inch rim like you have. They are widening the back of the rim as is usually done. This would change the wheels centerline. Or effectively cut the widening ratio to offset in half. This would be 1.5 inches = 38.1mm... 38.1mm in half is 19.05mm or what would be added to the rims final positive offset. Thus when the wheel came back to you it would actually be a 279.4mm wide rim. So now your 19x9.5 rim would actually be a 19x11 rim with a offset of 64.05mm And if you look at what I posted above as far as your 19x11 vs. the ruff 19x9.5 offset and how it sticks off the hub you will see the calculation is pretty darn close.
If you don't think this is true why would adding to the back of the rim make the rim stick out farther? It won't thus offset is a direct correlation of wheel width and centerline. Please refer to the above attached pic to see how this is possible.
You bring up stock fitments, thank you for bringing that up. I will give a proper explaination of how far they come off the hub, as I did above, this is a better explaination then confusing people with the term offset. As you will see Ruff wheels are pretty close off the hub wise to z06 size wheels.
Stock c5 front:
17x8.5 with a 56mm offset
8.5" = 215.9mm
Half of 215.9mm = 107.95mm which is the wheels centerline.
Now take your offset out of this:
107.95mm - 56mm = 51.95mm
Off the hub - 51.95mm
Stock c5 rear:
18x9.5 with a 65mm offset
9.5" = 241.3mm
Half of 241.3mm = 120.65mm which is the wheels centerline.
Now take your offset out of this:
120.65mm - 65mm = 55.65mm
Off the hub - 55.65mm
Stock Z06 front:
17x9.5 with a 54mm offset
9.5" = 241.3mm
Half of 241.3mm = 120.65mm which is the wheels centerline.
Now take your offset out of this:
120.65mm - 54mm = 66.65mm
Off the hub - 66.65mm
Stock Z06 rear:
18x10.5 with a 58mm offset
10.5" = 266.7mm
Half of 266.7mm = 133.35mm which is the wheels centerline.
Now take your offset out of this:
133.35mm - 58mm = 75.35mm
Off the hub - 75.35mm
All I am going to say is please learn the facts and how offset is calculated before posting and confusing people more.
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03-09-2008, 07:38 PM
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Hey,
I love the way your car looks. What you describe as far as the wheel spotting, thats because people use something other than light soap and water on there wheels. It will damage the clearcoat.. The clearcoat on those wheels like anyother wheel with clearcoat is very sensitive.
Make sure you do not use anything other than that on your wheels.
Thanks again,
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I love the way your car looks. What you describe as far as the wheel spotting, thats because people use something other than light soap and water on there wheels. It will damage the clearcoat.. The clearcoat on those wheels like anyother wheel with clearcoat is very sensitive.
Make sure you do not use anything other than that on your wheels.
Thanks again,
www.vqmotoring.com
(877)-877-9420
are your chrome wheels clearcoated?
03-09-2008, 07:45 PM
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structual warranty, weight, and where they are made?
Also, should I buy the 19's for the rear and the 18's for the front,
OR should I just put the 18's all around? Is the difference in looks only or what?
Is the Odometer affected with the larger rims either way from stock?
03-09-2008, 07:50 PM
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I do agree with you when you do a "Dukes of Hazzards" style jump with your car, equipped with Ruff Wheels, you will damage your fenders before you crash.
03-09-2008, 08:46 PM
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Well well well....I can live with and believe what you are saying and have done exactly what you did in your equation below. I wanted to compare the stockers, with my Z06 Motorsports I previously had on the car, with the Ronal I have on now, and the Ruff 278's I am considering putting on.
You have confirmed my thoughts and calculations, using actual numbers, logic, and actual math, not fuzzy math or opinion.
I will go with what you are saying. Thanks.
You have confirmed my thoughts and calculations, using actual numbers, logic, and actual math, not fuzzy math or opinion.
I will go with what you are saying. Thanks.
You bring up stock fitments, thank you for bringing that up. I will give a proper explaination of how far they come off the hub, as I did above, this is a better explaination then confusing people with the term offset. As you will see Ruff wheels are pretty close off the hub wise to z06 size wheels.
Stock c5 front:
17x8.5 with a 56mm offset
8.5" = 215.9mm
Half of 107.95mm = 107.95mm which is the wheels centerline.
Now take your offset out of this:
107.95mm - 56mm = 51.95mm
Off the hub - 51.95mm
Stock c5 rear:
18x9.5 with a 65mm offset
9.5" = 241.3mm
Half of 120.65mm = 120.65mm which is the wheels centerline.
Now take your offset out of this:
120.65mm - 65mm = 55.65mm
Off the hub - 55.65mm
Stock Z06 front:
17x9.5 with a 54mm offset
9.5" = 241.3mm
Half of 120.65mm = 120.65mm which is the wheels centerline.
Now take your offset out of this:
120.65mm - 54mm = 66.65mm
Off the hub - 66.65mm
Stock Z06 rear:
18x10.5 with a 58mm offset
10.5" = 266.7mm
Half of 133.35mm = 133.35mm which is the wheels centerline.
Now take your offset out of this:
133.35mm - 58mm = 75.35mm
Off the hub - 75.35mm
All I am going to say is please learn the facts and how offset is calculated before posting and confusing people more.
Stock c5 front:
17x8.5 with a 56mm offset
8.5" = 215.9mm
Half of 107.95mm = 107.95mm which is the wheels centerline.
Now take your offset out of this:
107.95mm - 56mm = 51.95mm
Off the hub - 51.95mm
Stock c5 rear:
18x9.5 with a 65mm offset
9.5" = 241.3mm
Half of 120.65mm = 120.65mm which is the wheels centerline.
Now take your offset out of this:
120.65mm - 65mm = 55.65mm
Off the hub - 55.65mm
Stock Z06 front:
17x9.5 with a 54mm offset
9.5" = 241.3mm
Half of 120.65mm = 120.65mm which is the wheels centerline.
Now take your offset out of this:
120.65mm - 54mm = 66.65mm
Off the hub - 66.65mm
Stock Z06 rear:
18x10.5 with a 58mm offset
10.5" = 266.7mm
Half of 133.35mm = 133.35mm which is the wheels centerline.
Now take your offset out of this:
133.35mm - 58mm = 75.35mm
Off the hub - 75.35mm
All I am going to say is please learn the facts and how offset is calculated before posting and confusing people more.