Need help with electrical issue-Police have made it time sensitive:(
08-23-2013, 10:20 AM
#1
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Need help with electrical issue-Police have made it time sensitive:(
This morning, 2 minutes after leaving my house, I got pulled over by a police officer for the first time in my entire life. I didn't get a ticket, but I got a notice saying I had 10 days to fix a problem with my car that I didn't know it had, or face a big fine.
My car came with aftermarket "euro" tail lamps (not the LED ones, the bulb kind). Both my turn signal and my brake lights work fine, but when I hit the brakes, apparently, my turn signal yellows and my brake reds both come on, which, apparently, is illegal. What could be the source of the problem? I'm at work now, so I haven't had a chance to open them up and look, but I know absolutely nothing about electrical setups and wiring. I always thought the Euro tail lamps were just a plug-and-play part.
Any help would be awesome.
My car came with aftermarket "euro" tail lamps (not the LED ones, the bulb kind). Both my turn signal and my brake lights work fine, but when I hit the brakes, apparently, my turn signal yellows and my brake reds both come on, which, apparently, is illegal. What could be the source of the problem? I'm at work now, so I haven't had a chance to open them up and look, but I know absolutely nothing about electrical setups and wiring. I always thought the Euro tail lamps were just a plug-and-play part.
Any help would be awesome.
08-23-2013, 10:27 AM
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"My turn signal yellows".......this is confusing.
If you mean the signal activates the amber portion of the "euro" tailights, then it's my understanding that is how it is supposed to work!
I thought the whole idea of the euro light was to have red brake lights and amber signals. Am I wrong about this? Or is your description just throwing me off the real problem?
If you mean the signal activates the amber portion of the "euro" tailights, then it's my understanding that is how it is supposed to work!
I thought the whole idea of the euro light was to have red brake lights and amber signals. Am I wrong about this? Or is your description just throwing me off the real problem?
08-23-2013, 10:28 AM
#3
Race Director
I believe there is a wire that needs to be cut that will stop the lights from doing that. Send Toque a PM. He knows all about those lights and what needs to be done.
08-23-2013, 10:29 AM
#4
Race Director
"My turn signal yellows".......this is confusing.
If you mean the signal activates the amber portion of the "euro" tailights, then it's my understanding that is how it is supposed to work!
I thought the whole idea of the euro light was to have red brake lights and amber signals. Am I wrong about this? Or is your description just throwing me off the real problem?
If you mean the signal activates the amber portion of the "euro" tailights, then it's my understanding that is how it is supposed to work!
I thought the whole idea of the euro light was to have red brake lights and amber signals. Am I wrong about this? Or is your description just throwing me off the real problem?
08-23-2013, 10:47 AM
#6
Tech Contributor
This morning, 2 minutes after leaving my house, I got pulled over by a police officer for the first time in my entire life. I didn't get a ticket, but I got a notice saying I had 10 days to fix a problem with my car that I didn't know it had, or face a big fine.
My car came with aftermarket "euro" tail lamps (not the LED ones, the bulb kind). Both my turn signal and my brake lights work fine, but when I hit the brakes, apparently, my turn signal yellows and my brake reds both come on, which, apparently, is illegal. What could be the source of the problem? I'm at work now, so I haven't had a chance to open them up and look, but I know absolutely nothing about electrical setups and wiring. I always thought the Euro tail lamps were just a plug-and-play part.
Any help would be awesome.
My car came with aftermarket "euro" tail lamps (not the LED ones, the bulb kind). Both my turn signal and my brake lights work fine, but when I hit the brakes, apparently, my turn signal yellows and my brake reds both come on, which, apparently, is illegal. What could be the source of the problem? I'm at work now, so I haven't had a chance to open them up and look, but I know absolutely nothing about electrical setups and wiring. I always thought the Euro tail lamps were just a plug-and-play part.
Any help would be awesome.
When you hit the brakes, the RED part should light up.
When you turn on your turn signal the Amber part should light up.
They are supposed to be totally independent of one another.
Assuming the PO installed all the correct harness's , the problem is that he did not cut the white wire under the dash (my best guess anyway).
I cut the white wire on my install and my brake lights, and turn signals are truly independent of one another.
Tip.... when you cut the white wire under the dash, try to cut it in a way that you can tie it back together again if you go back to stock lighting.
Here is some information on the install procedure.
http://64.209.142.240/faq/tutorials/eurolights.htm
http://www.c5forum.com//diy/reareuro/
http://content.mamotorworks.com/pdf/601715.pdf
Hope this helps.
Toque
Last edited by Toque; 08-23-2013 at 10:50 AM.
08-23-2013, 11:58 AM
#7
Race Director
The previous owner DID NOT follow the instructions when they installed them.
When you hit the brakes, the RED part should light up.
When you turn on your turn signal the Amber part should light up.
They are supposed to be totally independent of one another.
Assuming the PO installed all the correct harness's , the problem is that he did not cut the white wire under the dash (my best guess anyway).
I cut the white wire on my install and my brake lights, and turn signals are truly independent of one another.
Tip.... when you cut the white wire under the dash, try to cut it in a way that you can tie it back together again if you go back to stock lighting.
Here is some information on the install procedure.
http://64.209.142.240/faq/tutorials/eurolights.htm
http://www.c5forum.com//diy/reareuro/
http://content.mamotorworks.com/pdf/601715.pdf
Hope this helps.
Toque
When you hit the brakes, the RED part should light up.
When you turn on your turn signal the Amber part should light up.
They are supposed to be totally independent of one another.
Assuming the PO installed all the correct harness's , the problem is that he did not cut the white wire under the dash (my best guess anyway).
I cut the white wire on my install and my brake lights, and turn signals are truly independent of one another.
Tip.... when you cut the white wire under the dash, try to cut it in a way that you can tie it back together again if you go back to stock lighting.
Here is some information on the install procedure.
http://64.209.142.240/faq/tutorials/eurolights.htm
http://www.c5forum.com//diy/reareuro/
http://content.mamotorworks.com/pdf/601715.pdf
Hope this helps.
Toque
08-23-2013, 12:10 PM
#8
Tech Contributor
08-23-2013, 12:10 PM
#9
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Hey guys. Thanks so much for this. I'll give it a shot.
By "yellows" what I meant was that there are two sections to the Euro lights, the large "red" section (the "reds" in my original post) and the smaller, turn signal yellow section (the "yellows" in my original post). When I hit the brakes, both red and yellow light up.
Thanks,
Ross
By "yellows" what I meant was that there are two sections to the Euro lights, the large "red" section (the "reds" in my original post) and the smaller, turn signal yellow section (the "yellows" in my original post). When I hit the brakes, both red and yellow light up.
Thanks,
Ross
08-23-2013, 12:11 PM
#10
Team Owner
The previous owner DID NOT follow the instructions when they installed them.
When you hit the brakes, the RED part should light up.
When you turn on your turn signal the Amber part should light up.
They are supposed to be totally independent of one another.
Assuming the PO installed all the correct harness's , the problem is that he did not cut the white wire under the dash (my best guess anyway).
I cut the white wire on my install and my brake lights, and turn signals are truly independent of one another.
Tip.... when you cut the white wire under the dash, try to cut it in a way that you can tie it back together again if you go back to stock lighting.
Here is some information on the install procedure.
http://64.209.142.240/faq/tutorials/eurolights.htm
http://www.c5forum.com//diy/reareuro/
http://content.mamotorworks.com/pdf/601715.pdf
Hope this helps.
Toque
When you hit the brakes, the RED part should light up.
When you turn on your turn signal the Amber part should light up.
They are supposed to be totally independent of one another.
Assuming the PO installed all the correct harness's , the problem is that he did not cut the white wire under the dash (my best guess anyway).
I cut the white wire on my install and my brake lights, and turn signals are truly independent of one another.
Tip.... when you cut the white wire under the dash, try to cut it in a way that you can tie it back together again if you go back to stock lighting.
Here is some information on the install procedure.
http://64.209.142.240/faq/tutorials/eurolights.htm
http://www.c5forum.com//diy/reareuro/
http://content.mamotorworks.com/pdf/601715.pdf
Hope this helps.
Toque
08-23-2013, 12:32 PM
#11
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
That fixed the problem, 3.5 minutes, a pair of standard scissors, and two little pieces of electrical tape. Cut it with good space on both sides to go back to stock whenever.
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08-23-2013, 03:06 PM
#15
Tech Contributor
Beautiful NB you have there !
Toque
08-23-2013, 03:21 PM
#17
Team Owner
08-23-2013, 03:26 PM
#18
CF "Young" Senior Member
And, yeah, that blue... daaaaaamn, I love that color!
08-23-2013, 06:59 PM
#19
Burning Brakes
The previous owner DID NOT follow the instructions when they installed them.
When you hit the brakes, the RED part should light up.
When you turn on your turn signal the Amber part should light up.
They are supposed to be totally independent of one another.
Assuming the PO installed all the correct harness's , the problem is that he did not cut the white wire under the dash (my best guess anyway).
I cut the white wire on my install and my brake lights, and turn signals are truly independent of one another.
Tip.... when you cut the white wire under the dash, try to cut it in a way that you can tie it back together again if you go back to stock lighting.
Here is some information on the install procedure.
http://64.209.142.240/faq/tutorials/eurolights.htm
http://www.c5forum.com//diy/reareuro/
http://content.mamotorworks.com/pdf/601715.pdf
Hope this helps.
Toque
When you hit the brakes, the RED part should light up.
When you turn on your turn signal the Amber part should light up.
They are supposed to be totally independent of one another.
Assuming the PO installed all the correct harness's , the problem is that he did not cut the white wire under the dash (my best guess anyway).
I cut the white wire on my install and my brake lights, and turn signals are truly independent of one another.
Tip.... when you cut the white wire under the dash, try to cut it in a way that you can tie it back together again if you go back to stock lighting.
Here is some information on the install procedure.
http://64.209.142.240/faq/tutorials/eurolights.htm
http://www.c5forum.com//diy/reareuro/
http://content.mamotorworks.com/pdf/601715.pdf
Hope this helps.
Toque
08-23-2013, 07:01 PM
#20
Tech Contributor
Since I'm the curious sort and a little A/R about cutting wires, would it be necessary to cut the wire or would it be better to remove the grey connector and use a tool to pop out the wire from the connector? Then you would just have to wrap the exposed wire end with tape, and if you wanted to reverse the mod just plug the wire back into the connector....
Toque