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Old 05-25-2008, 09:55 PM
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Default What are all those black dots on rear window and will tint stick to them?

OK, so 1st I'm just curious what the black dots of gradually smaller size are on the hatch window and near the top center of the front window??

Then I'd like to know if there really is an issue with tint sticking properly because...and I've never heard of this before, the guy I am looking at to tint my windows says that tint will not stick to them b/c they are teflon?? And he says he would have to paint those areas of the window totally black then tint over it? WTF? I've never heard anything like this before.
I thought tinting was a pretty basic job..but maybe I'm wrong?!

As a side, does anyone know a good tint place in St.Louis/St.Charles MO just in case this guy is crazy?

Oh, and what % tint do people suggest on the back?
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i have the same problem on my c6,,

i have seen other members with perfect tint jobs, i guess i wasn't that lucky

some have suggested using elmer's glue over the teflon dots..

my tinter said he would use Vinyle to go over it and then re-tint. but i didn't wana risk the chance of him cutting the defog lines removing the tint.. ohwell..

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p.s. goto youtube and serch for corvette tint
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black vinyl does the best job covering the dots. mine's as close to perfect as i believe is possible. 20% or darker goes very nice with black vinyl.
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I have tint on mine and no problems
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I don't think you can get a "perfect" tint job over the dots...close but not perfect.
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OK, so 1st I'm just curious what the black dots of gradually smaller size are on the hatch window and near the top center of the front window?


Windshield glass contains a black enamel band (called the frit) around the periphery that is baked into the glass. This black band includes a border of dots. The band has an etched surface to enable adhesive to bond to the glass, says a sales manager at Able Auto Glass. When car manufacturers install the windshield, they bond the windshield to the vehicle with adhesive placed on the etched part of the black enamel glass area (inside surface). The outside of the enamel band shades the adhesive from the Sun and protects it from ultraviolet radiation. The band also serves a cosmetic purpose by covering up the adhesive and gives the windshield edge "a more finished look."
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Generally, the black matrix area will make tint look grey if you tint over it since the tint cant form and stick itself to a smooth surface like glass so air forms around the dots. The tint shop I go to uses a very pliable black vinyl adhesive tape on the matix area to black it out, then tints below that slightly overlapping the tape. It seems to stick very well to the matrix and is thin and pliable enough to seal to the glass around the dots. No grey appearance at all.

I went limo tint (6-8%) and find it a little dark especailly since the vision out the back window is already limited. Looks great though. If I had to do it over again, I wouldn't go darker than 15%.
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http://www.dotmatrixwindowtinting.com/index.html

Haven't used it myself, but looks like a solution. My tint job was fine initially, but has separated over time. I might try this product when/if I bother to get it retinted. It's not too terribly bad right now.
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I think 15 to 20% would be good.
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I've got 15% and they did a piece of vinyl over the dots on the outside which at first didn't look good to me but I think that is just because it was different. Now I'm happy with it and think it looks pretty good. I'd check into some vinyl if I were you.
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A strip of vinyl on the OUTSIDE of the glass?
So wouldn't that just look like you have black tape on the window??
That could not look good?!
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Originally Posted by BlackZ51Vett
Windshield glass contains a black enamel band (called the frit) around the periphery that is baked into the glass. This black band includes a border of dots. The band has an etched surface to enable adhesive to bond to the glass, says a sales manager at Able Auto Glass. When car manufacturers install the windshield, they bond the windshield to the vehicle with adhesive placed on the etched part of the black enamel glass area (inside surface). The outside of the enamel band shades the adhesive from the Sun and protects it from ultraviolet radiation. The band also serves a cosmetic purpose by covering up the adhesive and gives the windshield edge "a more finished look."
That is a good answer, usually you can only see the dots on bright sunny days and with polarized sun glasses. It is just the way that allows some light through and some not. Looks cool to me,

I like seeing dots.............
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I recently tinted my windows. I went with 20% on the rear and 50% on the sides. You hardly see the 50% but it does provide UV protection. Looks nice at night. Dots look OK, not great. It is what it is. You've got to be looking for the flaws real hard to see them.

I went to G-Wiz in Westfield NJ. I highly recommend them for any detailing, high-end stuff for your 'vette if you're in the area. (Not gonna help you for St. Louis)
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I just got my windows tinted and the dots on the back window at the very top prevented the tint from sticking completely. The tint guy said the dots are made of Teflon® and tint wont stick to them. It looks like a giant bubble towards the top of the back window. I will send them this info about tinting Corvette windows. They have a life time warranty on this tint job so should I take it back with this info and tell them to get it right? I hate being a jerk but it seems like the only way to not get taken for a ride these days.

FYI I went 5% which is totally illegal but looks real badazzzzzzz... minus the bubblezzzzzz anyway!!!!






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Originally Posted by moolys
I have tint on mine and no problems
It depends on the installer. If they are good it should be fine.
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I had mine painted and the tink below turned out great.
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Had mine done yesterday, they didn't tint that upper half but after a couple days I'm going back and he's installing black vinyl, he's done it for 20yrs and he found that tint will bubble there so he doesn't tint that area, you can't see it much out the rear view mirror anyways
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Originally Posted by NB68
A strip of vinyl on the OUTSIDE of the glass?
So wouldn't that just look like you have black tape on the window??
That could not look good?!
The vinyl goes on the inside with the tint.
I had mine done without the vinyl and it looks really good. I used an installer that I found in the local section of this forum and he did a great job for me and several other C6 guys near me.
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