Base vs. NPP Exhaust?
#1
Le Mans Master
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Base vs. NPP Exhaust?
I have replaced the exhaust system on almost every vehicle (cars, trucks, & motorcycles) that I've ever own(ed). I know that I'll probably do the same w/the C7.
I really like the NPP sound and appearance (4" tips), but the actuators/valves would not be a feature that I would ever use. I'm certain that I would pull the fuse to leave the valves open for the most aggressive tone.
Questions:
I presume that the base system does not have the actuators. As such, would it be better to get the base system and just replace with Corsa, Borla, or MagnaFlow (preference on the former).
Is there anything else that is different with the axle-back portion of the two systems aside from the tips, canisters (mufflers), and the actuators? I assume that the NPP is more opened (less baffles or packing material) to generate better flow for the additional 5 hp?
Are the mid-pipes the same- width, mandrel bending, and material- stainless steel or aluminized?
Also, those who have modified their exhaust- what is preferred: replacing just the axle-backs, or going with a cat-back system?
Lastly, I've read that a few owners have replaced the H-pipe (I assuming "H") with the X-pipe. X-pipes tend to be a little more raspy (higher pitch) where the H-pipe is more throaty (lower/deeper tone). I generally prefer the H, but wondering if the X is more desired for the C7. Maybe better flow...?
Thanks
I really like the NPP sound and appearance (4" tips), but the actuators/valves would not be a feature that I would ever use. I'm certain that I would pull the fuse to leave the valves open for the most aggressive tone.
Questions:
I presume that the base system does not have the actuators. As such, would it be better to get the base system and just replace with Corsa, Borla, or MagnaFlow (preference on the former).
Is there anything else that is different with the axle-back portion of the two systems aside from the tips, canisters (mufflers), and the actuators? I assume that the NPP is more opened (less baffles or packing material) to generate better flow for the additional 5 hp?
Are the mid-pipes the same- width, mandrel bending, and material- stainless steel or aluminized?
Also, those who have modified their exhaust- what is preferred: replacing just the axle-backs, or going with a cat-back system?
Lastly, I've read that a few owners have replaced the H-pipe (I assuming "H") with the X-pipe. X-pipes tend to be a little more raspy (higher pitch) where the H-pipe is more throaty (lower/deeper tone). I generally prefer the H, but wondering if the X is more desired for the C7. Maybe better flow...?
Thanks
#2
Melting Slicks
I have replaced the exhaust system on almost every vehicle (cars, trucks, & motorcycles) that I've ever own(ed). I know that I'll probably do the same w/the C7.
I really like the NPP sound and appearance (4" tips), but the actuators/valves would not be a feature that I would ever use. I'm certain that I would pull the fuse to leave the valves open for the most aggressive tone.
Questions:
I presume that the base system does not have the actuators. As such, would it be better to get the base system and just replace with Corsa, Borla, or MagnaFlow (preference on the former).
Is there anything else that is different with the axle-back portion of the two systems aside from the tips, canisters (mufflers), and the actuators? I assume that the NPP is more opened (less baffles or packing material) to generate better flow for the additional 5 hp?
Are the mid-pipes the same- width, mandrel bending, and material- stainless steel or aluminized?
Also, those who have modified their exhaust- what is preferred: replacing just the axle-backs, or going with a cat-back system?
Lastly, I've read that a few owners have replaced the H-pipe (I assuming "H") with the X-pipe. X-pipes tend to be a little more raspy (higher pitch) where the H-pipe is more throaty (lower/deeper tone). I generally prefer the H, but wondering if the X is more desired for the C7. Maybe better flow...?
Thanks
I really like the NPP sound and appearance (4" tips), but the actuators/valves would not be a feature that I would ever use. I'm certain that I would pull the fuse to leave the valves open for the most aggressive tone.
Questions:
I presume that the base system does not have the actuators. As such, would it be better to get the base system and just replace with Corsa, Borla, or MagnaFlow (preference on the former).
Is there anything else that is different with the axle-back portion of the two systems aside from the tips, canisters (mufflers), and the actuators? I assume that the NPP is more opened (less baffles or packing material) to generate better flow for the additional 5 hp?
Are the mid-pipes the same- width, mandrel bending, and material- stainless steel or aluminized?
Also, those who have modified their exhaust- what is preferred: replacing just the axle-backs, or going with a cat-back system?
Lastly, I've read that a few owners have replaced the H-pipe (I assuming "H") with the X-pipe. X-pipes tend to be a little more raspy (higher pitch) where the H-pipe is more throaty (lower/deeper tone). I generally prefer the H, but wondering if the X is more desired for the C7. Maybe better flow...?
Thanks
#3
Drifting
I replaced the stock system on my C6 wsithin the 1st 3k miles, and regreted it every time I got to 1450 rpm in 6th gear, the drone was miserable. I have the NPP on my C7 and really like it as I can select the tone I want.
That said, it seems to me that the choice is all yours. I don't think I would personally be up for an aftermarket system.
That said, it seems to me that the choice is all yours. I don't think I would personally be up for an aftermarket system.
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Keithwinnfl (06-06-2020)
#5
The 2 must have (s) for me is #1) A8, #2) NPP.
#6
Burning Brakes
#7
Safety Car
I went with the Flowmaster axleback, sounds great. Best sounding Corvette exhaust I have ever had and I have had Borla, B&B, Corsa, Magnaflow, etc....
Only drawback is that without a tune it goes in to 4 cylinder mode (in automatic tranny cars) and sounds harsh once in a while.
However, if you pull the fuse on the NPP it will do this also and probably sound just as bad if you have the automatic.
You can avoid this by paddle shifting in M or by hitting the paddles in D when it does this, but I have found it is not that bad, better than having no sound of Base or having your NPP go completely silent in 4 cylinder mode.
If you go on YouTube I have lots of videos under C7 Flowmaster by Howard G.
My favorite one is the one where I bicker with my wife to hold the camera.
Only drawback is that without a tune it goes in to 4 cylinder mode (in automatic tranny cars) and sounds harsh once in a while.
However, if you pull the fuse on the NPP it will do this also and probably sound just as bad if you have the automatic.
You can avoid this by paddle shifting in M or by hitting the paddles in D when it does this, but I have found it is not that bad, better than having no sound of Base or having your NPP go completely silent in 4 cylinder mode.
If you go on YouTube I have lots of videos under C7 Flowmaster by Howard G.
My favorite one is the one where I bicker with my wife to hold the camera.
#8
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#9
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Thanks. So the only difference between the two exhaust systems is just the axle-back portion; everything else from the manifold back is the same?
Edit:
Yello3- I checked out the YouTube Flowmaster clips. Sounds good. Didn't see anything specific to you, unless your name is Howad G.
C7Jake- Great sounding set-up. Is it just an axle-back?
BTW- I'll be getting the 7 speed.
Edit:
Yello3- I checked out the YouTube Flowmaster clips. Sounds good. Didn't see anything specific to you, unless your name is Howad G.
C7Jake- Great sounding set-up. Is it just an axle-back?
BTW- I'll be getting the 7 speed.
Last edited by sTz; 01-10-2015 at 08:57 AM.
#10
Melting Slicks
I was on the fence about the NPP as well, as I usually buy a Corsa or some other exhaust depending on the car. I ultimately bought it, and I must say, best money I have spent. The sound is everything I wanted it to be, and the ability to quiet it on long freeway drives is a blessing in disguise. The car can be very loud overall depending on road quality, and being able to eliminate one level of noise while cruising on a highway is nice. Besides it opens right back up if you step on it to pass something.
#11
Safety Car
Thanks. So the only difference between the two exhaust systems is just the axle-back portion; everything else from the manifold back is the same?
Edit:
Yello3- I checked out the YouTube Flowmaster clips. Sounds good. Didn't see anything specific to you, unless your name is Howad G.
C7Jake- Great sounding set-up. Is it just an axle-back?
BTW- I'll be getting the 7 speed.
Edit:
Yello3- I checked out the YouTube Flowmaster clips. Sounds good. Didn't see anything specific to you, unless your name is Howad G.
C7Jake- Great sounding set-up. Is it just an axle-back?
BTW- I'll be getting the 7 speed.
Also, if you are getting an manual tranny, NPP will always stay open and Flowmaster will not go in to 4 cylinder mode unless you put in in Economy Mode, which you will never do.
I would pretty much guarantee the Flowmaster will sound better, but I would probably go NPP as it is Factory.
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#16
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Howard G is me.
Also, if you are getting an manual tranny, NPP will always stay open and Flowmaster will not go in to 4 cylinder mode unless you put in in Economy Mode, which you will never do.
I would pretty much guarantee the Flowmaster will sound better, but I would probably go NPP as it is Factory.
Also, if you are getting an manual tranny, NPP will always stay open and Flowmaster will not go in to 4 cylinder mode unless you put in in Economy Mode, which you will never do.
I would pretty much guarantee the Flowmaster will sound better, but I would probably go NPP as it is Factory.
I'm really putting a lot of thought into the exhaust of this car- More so than the others... I'd like to match the sound with the cars appearance. While the NPP sounds good, I think the exhaust could sound better without being too obnoxious, which isn't necessarily bad.
I'm always looking for the perfect sound. I've wasted a lot of money in past in this pursuit- Just trying to get it right the first time.
#17
Safety Car
Good to know. Thanks!
I'm really putting a lot of thought into the exhaust of this car- More so than the others... I'd like to match the sound with the cars appearance. While the NPP sounds good, I think the exhaust could sound better without being too obnoxious, which isn't necessarily bad.
I'm always looking for the perfect sound. I've wasted a lot of money in past in this pursuit- Just trying to get it right the first time.
I'm really putting a lot of thought into the exhaust of this car- More so than the others... I'd like to match the sound with the cars appearance. While the NPP sounds good, I think the exhaust could sound better without being too obnoxious, which isn't necessarily bad.
I'm always looking for the perfect sound. I've wasted a lot of money in past in this pursuit- Just trying to get it right the first time.
The price is right also.
You won't regret it.
If you try hard enough and stay at a certain rpm you can get some drone, but I've never had a problem avoiding it.
Any exhaust that has ZERO drone also has inadequate cruising volume.
Last edited by yell03; 01-10-2015 at 04:16 PM.