NW-99SS

It's coming. They hacked a Grand Cherokee a couple years ago and were able to move it and drive it via it's satellite link.

When you start to realize that electric power steering is now in every vehicle, electronically shifted transmissions, and on and on. Now add the 2026 mandate for all vehicles to have a remote kill switch - who decides when to shut down your ICE or EV?

Fast Dawg

@NW-99SS - You mean like when my Nav system tells me to take a turn that is just silly and keeps insisting that I make a u-turn at the next light?

I've been telling people they could be tracked since I had a bag phone sitting in my passenger seat. The technology out there now is just incredible. I may be getting older but I refuse to be that 80 year old who can't figure it out.

prinzSD455

Just got the new Corvette Enthusiast issue and the editorial is also reporting that a Corvette SUV (fully electric) like the Ford Mach e is also coming as well. I was hopping that would never happen but it looks like it will. Ferarri is also developing an SUV. Mad world we live in.

JerryU

For Ferrari and Porsche, it's different. They have unique dealerships. Recall when we bought the wife's early Cayenne, the Porsche statement said, "Our statistics show most Porsche owners have and SUV, we thought, might as well be ours!"

Like GM builds GMC trucks from Chevy's for non Chevy dealers, Porsche builds their SUV's in the plants where they build VW and Audi SUV's. Now with two, the lower cost, smaller Macan and the Cayenne they sell more Porsche SUVs than Sports Cars! . As GM did years ago between some brands they do a good job of differentiating some sheet metal and engines, but basic vehicles are also VWs and Audis.

Ferrari with unique dealerships has a similar upside.

For Chevy between Blazer, Bolt, Equinox, Tahoe and Suburban the same Chevy salesman has more than enough to talk about!

Now one possibility is my thought of Mary Barra and company probable current panic. They have "over committed" to building ONLY EV Cars and Small Trucks by 2035. They are spending all GM's billions and diverting over half the Corvette engineers to EV design, production and batteries. If you consider the design and production cycle for a totally new vehicle that is not far away.

I speculated when a month or so ago GM President announced after next year's "performance hybrid" launch an EV Corvette will follow the Vette was much earlier than logical. Has nothing to do with the ~30,000 sales of Corvettes as that's peanuts to the over 2 million vehicles they sell every year. No, they are in a panic that the average person buying a "grocery getter" does not want or can afford an EV! The EV Vette will strictly be introduced to build some enthusiasm for the average "grocery getter" buyer to "WANT and EV!"

PRE-Z06

I’m blown away that the new Hummer is 9k lbs and nobody bats an eye, the battery pack alone weighs as much as Corvette. The average weight of vehicles has gone up though EV’s are an even bigger jump, imagine they will require more road maintenance because of this.

JerryU

^^^
Yep the rapid PUSH to zero CO2 emissions is foolish IMO. Sure a gradual transition is inevitable and logical BUT not this switch overnight, produce electricity by other than fossil fuels is not viable. Heard Dr. OZ (running for Senate in PA) expound how foolish it is thinking we are making a significant difference when Germany, etc is switching to coal for power generation (to reduce use of Russian Natural Gas.) That coal use will produce more CO2 than all our cars can save. Combine that with the 60% power production in China from Coal and 70% in India. Coal produces twice the CO2/BTU as Natural Gas and we have enough natural gas for >100 years and a lot in PA to supply Europe!

We're currently shipping Liquid Natural Gas BUT could ship a hell of a lot more BUT need more fracking. Can only hope we get politicians who want more than power/control and use logic! As Dr. OZ said if all US cars were using only EV's it's a drop in the bucket savings compared to what the rest of the word is doing! And what about the Methane from cows, pigs, chickens. It's 20 times more a greenhouse gas as CO2!

Fast Dawg

Quit making sense.

Michael A

You could build 100 hybrid cars with the same amount of ore mined for the batteries as it takes for just one full EV. That's nuts!

prinzSD455

yes, very true.

msm859

Or maybe just 5-10. The Tesla Model Y - probably the most popular EV has a battery size of 75 kWh (usable?). If the ERay came with an 8.3 kWh battery the could make 9 of them vs the Y. If it came with a 16.6 kWh battery that would be 4 1/2.

StingRaycer

actually the eray will have superior acceleration due to the 4 wheel drive ability - so it aint no "grocery getter"

Aerovette

Given the size of the motor, and the elimination of exhaust, it seems they should be able to make a real convertible.

StingRaycer

So, my experiences over the years with computers would make me differ with the boss lady ! They fail, they get hacked, they dont work as programmed....so, I foresee lots and lots of "crashes" ahead ------ the in-car computers will be crashing, thus the vehicles themselves will be crashing so the the investors $$ will be crashing as the stock crashes. To truly achieve "Zero emissions" the e fans must also factor in the costs of the mining and building and disposal of all of the ev batteries which, while never mentioned, will be a significant number. As to achieving "Zero congestion", it can only occur if everyone is arriving late as the computers slow down the traffic and or reroute all us to less direct streets to keep things moving. This is all such a joke - liquid, non polluting biofuels were being investigated until all the money turned to the evs. Liquid fuel is PORTABLE ! Liquid fuel can also be added quickly! arrgghhhhh

PRE-Z06

Still not a 100, but the Hummer battery is 213kWh.

msm859

Well I would say the Hummer and battery are a little obscene and would prefer they use the raw battery material to build a dozen ERays' with 16.6 kWh batteries. Flip side is the first 6 months of 2022 they only sold 371 Hummers so may not be an impact in the big picture.

PRE-Z06

If they’re switching to save the world, why make such an obscene vehicle?

msm859

I would tend to agree with you. Perhaps the long game is to make EV's "cool" to sway the masses over.

PRE-Z06

Seems hypocritical and arrogant to think that’s the way to manipulate people into doing what one wants.

msm859

Are you serious? Have you ever watched any commercial. Why do they put beautiful people in clothes they are selling? Why do they paint a beautiful life if you buy a particular product? This is marketing 101. EVERY SINGLE commercial for ANYTHING is an attempt to "manipulate" the prospective purchaser.

Michael A

Stop making sense!

I'll add to this. If the goal was really about reducing C02 emissions, all options would be on the table. Instead, all options have been shut down except for battery electric cars which rely on a single energy type. Interesting. And the spotlight shines bright on cars as a major source of all of our C02 emissions, requiring upending our lifestyle and billions of dollars of taxes, when cars only represent 6% of all man made C02 emissions. Interesting.

This full charge to EVs doesn't pass the smell test.