Another Delay? Z06
01-26-2021, 05:40 PM
#81
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Jimmyb I just said what I saw like it or LUMP it
01-26-2021, 05:46 PM
#82
Race Director
^^^
Here, the difference:
YOU said the car IS delayed. The Youtuber said it was PROBABLY delayed. And neither of you KNOWS.
So, I'll LUMP it.
Here, the difference:
YOU said the car IS delayed. The Youtuber said it was PROBABLY delayed. And neither of you KNOWS.
So, I'll LUMP it.
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01-26-2021, 05:49 PM
#83
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Warp Ten: So "they" say $59,995 for the base C8. "They" also said they would lose money at an $80,000 C8. Get ready to be soaked for the Z06.
01-26-2021, 05:50 PM
#84
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tsk tsk
01-26-2021, 05:56 PM
#85
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Now that the "rich" are buying the C8 is the target market any different
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01-26-2021, 06:01 PM
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JABCAT Everyone knows that social media is always factful
01-26-2021, 06:02 PM
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01-26-2021, 06:06 PM
#88
That just broke so many hearts of those who really believed the C8Z was going to start at 85k lol
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01-26-2021, 06:29 PM
#89
Because they have a roll-out plan, they have a limited number of engineers and designers, and they work on things as they planned to. Pulling them forward is way harder than pushing them back. One of the reasons, they do it in the order they do, is because they know they have serial buyers, people that must have the best performing car available. Even if it is a new car every year. So they can literally sell them 3 cars in as little as 3 years. If they rolled the cars out ZR1 first that would cost them sales. The would not sell them a base car, then Z06, and then ZR1. Plus due to those limited development resources, they would not get the volume car out first, to cash flow future development. So yes they have a system that works and maximizes their sales with limited resources.
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01-26-2021, 06:36 PM
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They are only going to push it out if it is not ready for production, or can't get the parts (hence not ready for production).
01-26-2021, 07:31 PM
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Not True.................................... ..... BASE/Z51/HTC are all one model and one allocation. Z06 is a different model and different allocation. Both comprise the dealers total allocation. A different model/allocation means a different list entirely. In other words, you go the back, not the front.
Regardless of when the Z06 is announced based on current production, and the number of people in line, if you don’t have your name on a list already you ain’t getting one until 2023 or beyond is my guess. Unless you pay huge markups.
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01-26-2021, 07:49 PM
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That’s what I thought. The other geniuses on here think they are going to switch their base C8 allocation for a Z06 and jump the Z06 line. Not gonna happen. It would **** off the thousands of Z06 buyers who got their name on the Z06 list well over a year ago.
Regardless of when the Z06 is announced based on current production, and the number of people in line, if you don’t have your name on a list already you ain’t getting one until 2023 or beyond is my guess. Unless you pay huge markups.
Regardless of when the Z06 is announced based on current production, and the number of people in line, if you don’t have your name on a list already you ain’t getting one until 2023 or beyond is my guess. Unless you pay huge markups.
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01-26-2021, 07:52 PM
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01-26-2021, 07:57 PM
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Not True.................................... ..... BASE/Z51/HTC are all one model and one allocation. Z06 is a different model and different allocation. Both comprise the dealers total allocation. A different model/allocation means a different list entirely. In other words, you go the back, not the front.
The convertible was a different VIN sequence just like the C7 Z06 and it did not work like you said....... so waiting for your authoritative response.
01-26-2021, 08:00 PM
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They're not going to miss out on anything. There are still a slew of people just wanting to get into a C8, PERIOD.
Some people, car people, or even those who just like cool fast cars don't know what a z06 is. They don't know what the HP is for each gen nor where it falls in lineup (in terms of base - top of the line).
The notion that people will all of a sudden not buy a base if they release the z06 "too early" is laughable.
For one, it's not going to start at 85k.
Second, not everyone cares about a high performance variant as i stated above. And moreso if the z06 turns out to be NA? That 400+ list at MM will drop to 200's instantly.
Third, like previous gens, even when the grand sport/z06/zr1 came out, people still bought base cars. Hell people are still buying used C7 stingrays. Like it should.
The z06 isn't the "IT" car. If anything the ZR1 and/or ZORA will be. Because they will be the HIGH HP powerhouses of the C8 lineup. And those with even deeper pockets (the supercar owners), are eyeing that zora because of the hybrid system and 1000hp to add to the garage next to their mclaren 720S, 911 GT2RS and all the big dog performance cars.
01-26-2021, 08:20 PM
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Really, do you have confirmation from GM? Or are you just speculating based on prior generations? Do you have confirmation on how dealers will be handling their lists? are you just speculating? If you have confirmation, can you provide a cite?
The convertible was a different VIN sequence just like the C7 Z06 and it did not work like you said....... so waiting for your authoritative response.
The convertible was a different VIN sequence just like the C7 Z06 and it did not work like you said....... so waiting for your authoritative response.
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01-26-2021, 08:35 PM
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Really, do you have confirmation from GM? Or are you just speculating based on prior generations? Do you have confirmation on how dealers will be handling their lists? are you just speculating? If you have confirmation, can you provide a cite?
The convertible was a different VIN sequence just like the C7 Z06 and it did not work like you said....... so waiting for your authoritative response.
The convertible was a different VIN sequence just like the C7 Z06 and it did not work like you said....... so waiting for your authoritative response.
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01-26-2021, 08:42 PM
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Guys, too much into the mechanics of the situation. Look to the past for guidance.
C4:
1984, ZR1 1990
C5:
1997, Z06 2001
C6:
2005, Z06 2006
C7
2014, Z06 2015
If you look at the trend, GM recognizes there are people who want a higher tier car and the gap got close and closer as the generation went on. My guess is that they DO want it to be a 22.
C4:
1984, ZR1 1990
C5:
1997, Z06 2001
C6:
2005, Z06 2006
C7
2014, Z06 2015
If you look at the trend, GM recognizes there are people who want a higher tier car and the gap got close and closer as the generation went on. My guess is that they DO want it to be a 22.
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01-26-2021, 08:42 PM
#99
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They're not going to miss out on anything. There are still a slew of people just wanting to get into a C8, PERIOD.
Some people, car people, or even those who just like cool fast cars don't know what a z06 is. They don't know what the HP is for each gen nor where it falls in lineup (in terms of base - top of the line).
The notion that people will all of a sudden not buy a base if they release the z06 "too early" is laughable.
For one, it's not going to start at 85k.
Second, not everyone cares about a high performance variant as i stated above. And moreso if the z06 turns out to be NA? That 400+ list at MM will drop to 200's instantly.
Third, like previous gens, even when the grand sport/z06/zr1 came out, people still bought base cars. Hell people are still buying used C7 stingrays. Like it should.
The z06 isn't the "IT" car. If anything the ZR1 and/or ZORA will be. Because they will be the HIGH HP powerhouses of the C8 lineup. And those with even deeper pockets (the supercar owners), are eyeing that zora because of the hybrid system and 1000hp to add to the garage next to their mclaren 720S, 911 GT2RS and all the big dog performance cars.
Some people, car people, or even those who just like cool fast cars don't know what a z06 is. They don't know what the HP is for each gen nor where it falls in lineup (in terms of base - top of the line).
The notion that people will all of a sudden not buy a base if they release the z06 "too early" is laughable.
For one, it's not going to start at 85k.
Second, not everyone cares about a high performance variant as i stated above. And moreso if the z06 turns out to be NA? That 400+ list at MM will drop to 200's instantly.
Third, like previous gens, even when the grand sport/z06/zr1 came out, people still bought base cars. Hell people are still buying used C7 stingrays. Like it should.
The z06 isn't the "IT" car. If anything the ZR1 and/or ZORA will be. Because they will be the HIGH HP powerhouses of the C8 lineup. And those with even deeper pockets (the supercar owners), are eyeing that zora because of the hybrid system and 1000hp to add to the garage next to their mclaren 720S, 911 GT2RS and all the big dog performance cars.
I also think that after the Strike and Covid GM may bump the price up to a higher tier than the previous gen be the base car. Maybe they only produce 3000 or so “launch edition” Z06 cars that are loaded and priced $130K+, and then offer a cheaper base Z06 model a year later. I think allocations on the C8 Z06 could be lower than previous gen, at least for the first year or two.
01-26-2021, 08:46 PM
#100
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Guys, too much into the mechanics of the situation. Look to the past for guidance.
C4:
1984, ZR1 1990
C5:
1997, Z06 2001
C6:
2005, Z06 2006
C7
2014, Z06 2015
If you look at the trend, GM recognizes there are people who want a higher tier car and the gap got close and closer as the generation went on. My guess is that they DO want it to be a 22.
C4:
1984, ZR1 1990
C5:
1997, Z06 2001
C6:
2005, Z06 2006
C7
2014, Z06 2015
If you look at the trend, GM recognizes there are people who want a higher tier car and the gap got close and closer as the generation went on. My guess is that they DO want it to be a 22.