Marshjn

C8 Corvette Stingray vs C8 Z06 - made a video on why I wouldnt get C8 Z06. Crazy ADMs will push the price point closer to Audi R8s, Mac 570s. If you are interested, click the link below

THX_ZORA

I have read numerous posts from folks with deposits in place that the top Corvette dealers are charging just MSRP for Z06's...

Vetteman Jack

Unfortunately dealers will ask the huge ADMs because they know someone will pay them. I am not a fan of any ADM, but in today's Corvette market where demand far exceeds speedy delivery of a car, no surprise that they can get away with it.

Marshjn

May be a few big ones, but the wait times for them is 3-5 years out. Rest of the small dealerships who are saying Mrsp, they could switch it up once the car arrives just like how many dealerships did for the C8 Stingray

Marshjn

Yes agreed. How much over sticker is the question cuz at 50-80k over, now you are competing with other Supercars like Audi R8, McLaren 570s, etc. I think with that crazy ADM numbers, dealerships might price out their own corvette fan base. It will be interesting to see how it turns out

lewislgZ06

I am on 2 separate lists, one for a Z06, and one for a Z51 Stingray, both at MSRP. Still waiting for MSRP pricing on the Z06 and actual buyer's feedback before making my decision.
I have my personal limit even at MSRP on the Z06. Hope to have pricing info sometime in the not too distant future.

bgad

Unless you are one of the relatively few people who actually track their car or an illegal street racer, I don’t think that you will be disappointed with the Z51 version. No sense paying for what you can’t use.

lewislgZ06

True. I'm certainly not an illegal street racer, nor a track rat, but I do enjoy having the performance on those few occasions that I do get on a track. Even still, I likely wouldn't push either car to its limit. The older I get, I find myself taking less and less risk, but I do still enjoy a measured amount.
In all honesty the Z51 HTC Stingray best meets and probably exceeds my needs and desires for a new sports car, and I can most likely fully load it up and be in the neighborhood of Z06 base price.

rkrupka

"How much over sticker is the question cuz at 50-80k over, now you are competing with other Supercars like Audi R8, McLaren 570s, etc."
I am curious where you are pricing out these new McLaren 570's and what pricing you are getting?

rkrupka

If you do not track the car I do not see how you one could really 'use' even the Z51 version.

MikeinAZ

Watch some videos on the Ron Fellows Corvette driving school. The z51 Stingray has more potential than you will use. The instructors literally drive away from you when you think you are pushing your limits. A z51 equipped is more than enough car for 90% of Corvette owners.

Do I miss the extra 150hp from my supercharged c7. At times, but the C8 does everything well and within the confines of public roads, it's superior to about anything out there and will get you to any legal posted speed limit faster than almost anything you will come across.

C8J

The base C8 is better on all counts, not even including price, than Audi R8, McLaren 570s, etc. The C8 is a Game Changer and a super car. A super car is not defined by how many zeros are added to the price!

This super car debate is like the Ford vs Ferrari competition. Do you want rounded curves or fighter jet performance. That simple. Form follows function. $$$$$$ follows a rounded style trying to get function. I suggest one investigate the legacy of the Bell X1 and the sound barrier.

bgad

I ended with a ‘22 Z51 HTC and absolutely love it! It still has more performance than I will ever be able to use but I do enjoy the bells and whistles! It is already my favorite car that I have ever had.

Z0HS1CK

I put myself on the SR wait list to get a MY23 because i foresee more hold ups, and delays, low production/low allocation amount it's first year etc. I don't see myself getting a z06 until 2025. If i can enjoy an SR for 2 years before i sell it to get the C8Z, i'll be happy with that.

BluegrassMotorsport

I've finally been tempted enough by the C8 to start making a plan for one. I've had the same debate with myself over Z51 vs Z06. The Z06 is incredible and will likely go down in history for numerous reasons. But then I consider that a Z51 is already far more performance than I will ever use. It will be cheaper and I can get it faster. Or I can do like others and get on lists for both - enjoy the Z51 while I wait for the Z06. Either way I said I'd never get rid of my manual and I'm fixing to make myself a liar. A friend of mine found a smaller dealer who only has one person on their Z06 list and they typically get a C8 or two each month. I might have decent luck there but they're asking 5k over for the Z06 which is also said I would never do. Who knows how many promises to myself I'll break haha.

VetteHalen5150

I'm similar to you. I definitely want to trade my M5 for a C8 when the prices get more reasonable. I don't track my cars, but I much prefer the Z06 for the more unique engine, better exhaust and wider body kit (including all the additional interior and exterior carbon fiber pieces). Just like everyone else on these forums, I don't think getting a Z06 is possible unless I want to spend $175K to $200K for 'flippers' or give away thousands (interest free) to a dealer to wait 4 years. I watched the Z06 video yesterday from the Youtuber who took it around the Indy track, and it looks and sounds fantastic. But, I think most of us will have to 'settle' for the base C8 for a few years until enough used Z06's hit the market. Certainly not a bad thing, since the base C8 is a terrific car also!

ArmchairArchitect

How is the C8 Z06 not at least as good as a Volkswagen/Audi R8? Even the base C8 is. And the C8 Z06 has that saliva-induced FPC V8 with a glorious sound and the highest power V8 ever and most efficient engine ever produced (BMEP rating).

Also, don't confuse the terms "supercar" and "exotic". Supercar is strictly about performance, exotic is about rarity.

That being said, if the C8 Z06 is more than ~$85k, I'm out and may or may not get a base C8/Z51 instead. They didn't do any lightweighting with the Z06 so that was a huge disappointment to me. So effectively you're paying for a motor.

JillyBean

^^^^^^
speed /quick doesn’t mean supercar
is the 60K model 3 performance Tesla a supercar?
under 3 sec 0-60 and faster than C8
From stoplights

Halewafa

Don't need to be on the track or going illegal speeds to be able to enjoy the glorious sounds the Z06 makes.

cor28vettes

OP: Your video is a FAIL on so many fronts. Foremost and most important is performance difference between the Stingray and Z06. Beyond stating the Z06 has more HP, you mentioned zilch about what that difference is. A 670HP Super Car vs the 490HP Stingray (495HP w/the Z51 allegedly). And you're speculating on price over sticker plus having to wait 3-5 yrs stating it would already old by then.

Well yeah, with family and kids I can't see owning a Stingray, like you, let alone a super car like the Z06. And you're projecting perhaps getting a Lambo someday at pre-covid price. Dream on about Lambo's at pre-covid price. So for the price difference it's much more than looks, which is what your presentation appeared to be all about, without even having one on display to compare to.

Hope your future videos improve. I doubt the anyone in the market is making their decision on this Z06/Stingray analysis.