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Old 05-01-2024, 02:31 PM
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I decided this weekend to go on a road trip and view all the Z06 inventory I could see. Was basically looking for different colors, options, etc to help me make my own decision for my order. Best to see thie colors and optons in real life rather than the configurator. I learned that this weekend. To my surprise. I saw several loaded Z's maxed out to 175K with options marked at MSRP and they were still sitting unsold. Not sure if they will last long, but its looking like some dealers have customer ordered cars that were backed out at the last minute and they are now available.

On the other hand. Some of the dealers were still wanting ADM's on their in stock Z's. So there is still a big mix. I, Saw my first 2 Eray's. I saw a white one that was absolutely beautiful. It was sold car at MSRP. The other one was a blue one at different dealership, but it was up for sale with ADM. Not sure of what it was, but was told at that dealership that all erays and Z's .....they were asking ADM.

So for those on long lists, you may want to look around to see if you can find a nugget hiding in your local neighborhood as it appears things are getting better. This was not the case around here 6 months ago.
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Sure they are. I for sure wouldnt buy a Z06 that has little to no options, and thats what you pretty much did. I wouldnt give your car a second look, let alone a first.. lol

I have a $155k Z06/Z07, my car would sell faster and sell for more than yours would.
Cool story bro- and a track rat wouldn't look twice at your heavier optioned Z with unnecessary luxury features that add weight to the car and detract from performance (unless we are talking strictly performance options).

There are a lot more buyers for a $116k Z06 than a $175k Z06 is my point.
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Interesting Info, Thanks
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I paid MSRP of 116k on my Z06 at a time when ADMs were high. I don't see a 175k Z06, even at MSRP, as a "deal" to be had, even if it has a bunch more options than my car.
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I paid MSRP of 116k on my Z06 at a time when ADMs were high. I don't see a 175k Z06, even at MSRP, as a "deal" to be had, even if it has a bunch more options than my car.
It isn't really comparable when you sat on a waiting list for years to get that price and these are cars just sitting on the lot someone can just roll in and buy without having to play the list game.
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It isn't really comparable when you sat on a waiting list for years to get that price and these are cars just sitting on the lot someone can just roll in and buy without having to play the list game.
My point is that it's not a surprise that the 175k cars are at MSRP as they are not as good of a value as the lower optioned cars.

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Originally Posted by C2Red64
Sure they are. I for sure wouldnt buy a Z06 that has little to no options, and thats what you pretty much did. I wouldnt give your car a second look, let alone a first.. lol

I have a $155k Z06/Z07, my car would sell faster and sell for more than yours would.
Just because you paid more doesn't mean the options are 'worth it' necessarily. I would hope your car would sell for more than a lower optioned Z06 but in time they will even out. C7s are an example of this. The definition of worth it here is subjective but I wouldn't ever pay extra for a 3LZ because it's a bunch of unnecessary fluff for the most part. If you're worried about having a leather dash go buy a luxury car that won't, in typical GM fashion, inevitably peel after a couple of years.

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My point is that it's not surprise that the 175k cars are at MSRP as they are not as good of a value as the lower optioned cars.
Agreed. People are buying the Z06 for the engine and widebody. Interior is mostly Stingray. I've always said on C8Z if you're worried about resale or depreciation buy the lowest spec 1LZ in the most desirable (aka popular) color combo. Plenty of peasants like myself stretch budgets to get into the mid-level trim Vettes.

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It will be good to know if some people have been able to get their on lot Z's under MSRP lately. I think I saw 2 posts from individuals stating they got slightly under. With stingrays stacking up on lots and small dealerships now refusing new ones. Maybe GM might start some incentives soon.
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Originally Posted by C2Red64
Sure they are. I for sure wouldnt buy a Z06 that has little to no options, and thats what you pretty much did. I wouldnt give your car a second look, let alone a first.. lol

I have a $155k Z06/Z07, my car would sell faster and sell for more than yours would.
Maybe not said in the nicest way, but I agree.

And traditionally cars with more options do sell for more. Watch Barrett-Jackson or Mecum when a 2006 Ford GT comes up for auction and you will probably see that.

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That’s not accurate. When I bought my Z06 2 weeks ago, I talked to many many dealers, they listed many at msrp, but when you call and ask, then they tell you there’s ADM, so can’t believe that MSRP.
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Originally Posted by C2Red64
Sure they are. I for sure wouldnt buy a Z06 that has little to no options, and thats what you pretty much did. I wouldnt give your car a second look, let alone a first.. lol

I have a $155k Z06/Z07, my car would sell faster and sell for more than yours would.
Cool story bro- and a track rat wouldn't look twice at your heavier optioned Z with unnecessary luxury features that add weight to the car and detract from performance (unless we are talking strictly performance options).

There are a lot more buyers for a $116k Z06 than a $175k Z06 is my point.
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With auto financing @ 7-20% now there might be less people wanting that 3LZ or the Car.
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Originally Posted by Car Junkie 24
My point is that it's not a surprise that the 175k cars are at MSRP as they are not as good of a value as the lower optioned cars.
I wouldn't even bother w/ a stripped down Z06 unless I was just using it for the track. Even then, I'd want some extras. There's lots to be said for sitting in a nice 3LZ interior. Worth every penny.
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Just because you paid more doesn't mean the options are 'worth it' necessarily. I would hope your car would sell for more than a lower optioned Z06 but in time they will even out. C7s are an example of this. The definition of worth it here is subjective but I wouldn't ever pay extra for a 3LZ because it's a bunch of unnecessary fluff for the most part. If you're worried about having a leather dash go buy a luxury car that won't, in typical GM fashion, inevitably peel after a couple of years.



Agreed. People are buying the Z06 for the engine and widebody. Interior is mostly Stingray. I've always said on C8Z if you're worried about resale or depreciation buy the lowest spec 1LZ in the most desirable (aka popular) color combo. Plenty of peasants like myself stretch budgets to get into the mid-level trim Vettes.
You’re right about the value, flippers always buy the cheapest low option cars for this reason.

You’re wrong about “in typical GM fashion” though. Real leather dashes are the worst about separating regardless of brand; even Ferraris have that problem. The ground up synthetic leather is much more uniform and less likely to separate than the stuff cut directly from a cow.
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Locally I ran into a new ZO6 3lz with z07 package and all the carbon fiber goodies and its MSRP is around 171k and the dealer is asking 25k over. Rich man's game.
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^ You seem hurt. I like all the options too but Junkie is right about more buyers on the lower end.
Price-wise, you'd think so, but it's just simply not the case in reality. It hasn't been forever, and even with the comically high prices, it still isn't. I don't want to link the presentation here because it'll probably get deleted, but there are photos of GM's slides from the Corvette Bash in Bowling Green last weekend on the other forum:

For the 2024MY:
the Z06 coupe:
  • 1LZ - 10%
  • 3LZ - 68%

the Z06 convertible:
  • 1LZ - 2%
  • 3LZ - 82%

(I'm obviously ignoring the 2LZ).

The "low-end" buyers just aren't there. They aren't materializing in the volume that this and other forums would have you believe. It's always been that way, too. The "1" level options have ALWAYS scored very low on up-take, almost to the point that GM should just kill them and only do "2" and "3" level interiors and kits.
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Wow, folks getting sensitive and butt hurt in here...........everyone will have their own opinion about what they like or don't like. Neither is right or wrong, just preference. And sure, at this level price will play a part as there's a significant difference between a 1LZ with zero options and a fully optioned out 3LZ Z07. There is a fully optioned out 3LZ Z07 near me with a $15k markup. It's been there for a couple of weeks. I'll be curious to see how long it lasts. Stay frosty people.......
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Not at all, he is just sour because he prob couldnt afford...
Ah this lame statement when someone doesn't want to pay GM's over-inflated option prices . I've had both 1 & 3LZ, interiors in Corvettes. The 3LZ is garbage for what it costs. It would be decent at $2,500 maybe even 3,500, but for $12k on the Stingray & $14k on the Z06, GM is laughing all the way to the bank. Even the fact that Z buyers pay almost $2k more for the same Stingray interior is hilarious.

A good example: a 3LZ seat back skin replacement is $193 - $303 depending on color. The seat bottom skin is $246 - $349. X2 for both 3LZ seats it'll cost you $1,300.

An M4's replacement seat skins are $2,500 per seat, but that interior (7 different color options) is included in the base price of the vehicle. You can go full extended merino leather (doors, console, etc.) for $2,500, and the material quality is significantly better than GM's cheap "pleather".
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Ah this lame statement when someone doesn't want to pay GM's over-inflated option prices . I've had both 1 & 3LZ, interiors in Corvettes. The 3LZ is garbage for what it costs. It would be decent at $2,500 maybe even 3,500, but for $12k on the Stingray & $14k on the Z06, GM is laughing all the way to the bank. Even the fact that Z buyers pay almost $2k more for the same Stingray interior is hilarious.

A good example: a 3LZ seat back skin replacement is $193 - $303 depending on color. The seat bottom skin is $246 - $349. X2 for both 3LZ seats it'll cost you $1,300.

An M4's replacement seat skins are $2,500 per seat, but that interior (7 different color options) is included in the base price of the vehicle. You can go full extended merino leather (doors, console, etc.) for $2,500, and the material quality is significantly better than GM's cheap "pleather".
3LZ trim package is garbage? Lol
Another salty opinion from someone who doesnt even own a C8Z.
But the 3LZ Sales say otherwise. The 3LZ trim is just as nice or nicer than other cars, including BMWs.
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Not at all, he is just sour because he prob couldnt afford anything higher than $120k, and got stuck with a high 8-10% interest rate. He is just trying to justify a zero optioned out Z. Aint that right LE MANSZ?
As a person that bought a 2024 3LZ, the only one justifying what they bought is you.

You seem to have the need to flaunt how rich and wealthy you are.

Not everyone has the same tastes as you. While you and me may appreciate the interior upgrades the 3LZ provides, not everyone does and is perfectly happy with a basic 1LZ because all they want is that engine. My bare minimum was 2LZ simply because I would want the front end lift. But again, not everyone desires the upgrades the higher trim levels provide.

Drop the ego contest.
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3LZ trim package is garbage? Lol
Another salty opinion from someone who doesnt even own a C8Z.
But the 3LZ Sales say otherwise. The 3LZ trim is just as nice or nicer than other cars, including BMWs.
1. Quote correctly, it's garbage for what it costs is what I said. My Carbon Z has the 3LZ interior that only cost $7,100 at the time. It was garbage then for $7k and it's garbage now for $14k.

2. The Z06 3LZ interior is not nicer than BMWs, it's not even close. But keep telling yourself that to justify your overspend
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