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Magic Stick V.4 239/242, .649"/.609" 111 LSA
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233/239, .595"/.603" 112 LSA
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237/242 .603/.609" 112 LSA
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Which cam with AFR 205 heads?

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Old 06-27-2007, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Chalky
Just curious but what kind of lobes lift were on your 224/224?

Are your 205's milled?

I had this cam previously:
"TR 224-114" - 224/224 .563/.563 114 LSA

No, my heads are not milled. I estimate that I'm currently running about a 10.6 compression ratio

Originally Posted by vetterlatethannever
Another curious question- 2001 Vette so the gains you had are over the LS6 intake, any porting on the FAST 90?
You are correct, I swapped from my stock LS6 manifold to the FAST 90/90 to get to 422 from 399 (along with the TB and intake I listed earlier)
And no, my FAST is not ported. It's something I'll probably have done coming up
Old 07-02-2007, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by msghuff
Been very happy with both cams he spec'd for me and both were proven at the track and great daily drivers.
my lil 346 is running the same cam, just 11 +4 and I dig it. AFRs are damn nice heads man, but I would go with 921s as I like duals. Good luck man!
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PS when does Nam do Sunday T n T again??? I was thinking heading up before Wayne pops smoke???
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Originally Posted by Slowhawk
If it was me I'd raise the compression by milling the heads and put in a 224 or 228 Cam.That gives excellent power the whole rev range.
I have the 224/228@114 cam. excellent street cam, took it to Cruise In twice with no issues and pulls nice and hard with the AFR heads!
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Originally Posted by e-love
Most of the cams that have been mentioned seem on the smaller side, except for one person throwing out the G5X4 which would probably be too big for maintaining the drivability that the original poster asked for. I went from a 224/224 to a 237/242 cam (Magic Stick 3) with my AFR 205s. The swap, which I did along with a pulley, brought me from 423 rwhp to 470 rwhp. The car is quite drivable and the swap brought my powerband from the lower end of the RPMs to the mid-high end of things. The car is so much more fun now, and I don't have any idling issues or drivability problems. Just make friends with a good tuner



The difference between the middle and upper line on this graph is the cam swap and pulley install (also did an LS7 clutch in between the two dynotunes so the 470 is with the heavier clutch assembly, as well as my 3.90 gears) Hope this helps!

I can't say your results suprise me. the TR224 is a very "nice" mild cam. But I have never been in a 224 cammed car that really impressed me. Both Magic stick cars I have been in a V3 and a V4 absolutely blew me away. Seeing you pick up 40+ to the wheels is just about what I felt from my a** with that cam, and the V4 seemed to really pick up steam in the last 1000rpm's.

Thanks for sharing your results. You just confirmed my previous feelings especially with no power drop off at 6500, like with the 224. And having added the power robbing 3.90's. Very cool.
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The 224 cam referred to here is not the XER lobes. Add some XER lobes and you are looking at a 224 cam that work very well.

I am not so sure that going with a cam that trades away low end for top end is a win win on the street.
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Originally Posted by Chalky
The 224 cam referred to here is not the XER lobes. Add some XER lobes and you are looking at a 224 cam that work very well.

I am not so sure that going with a cam that trades away low end for top end is a win win on the street.
What 10-15 at the wheels, from 3500 to 4500? I'll give that up. I play in much higher revs then that. Especially when the 224's power stops building nearly 1k sooner.
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Thanks to all of you for your opinions. After talking to Tony Mamo he recommends a 228/230 .58x/ .59x 114 LSA XER lobe cam. This will give me a little less peak but good power under the curve and improved drivability over a larger cam. Most important, since my heads are milled .035 and have 60cc chambers I can not go much larger without flycutting, which I do not want to do. I think I will be happy with this and all boltons, 90/90 setup and EWP.

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Originally Posted by chiefDave
my lil 346 is running the same cam, just 11 +4 and I dig it. AFRs are damn nice heads man, but I would go with 921s as I like duals. Good luck man!
Dave
PS when does Nam do Sunday T n T again??? I was thinking heading up before Wayne pops smoke???
Dave,

I went with Patriot Dual Gold springs good to .650 so should be good to go. I just did a contract on a house out in Harnett County last week and will move in on 3 August. You need to come up and party. I will have the pool table set up by 4 August. Got an extra bed for you guys.

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Originally Posted by ccajun4real
Thanks to all of you for your opinions. After talking to Tony Mamo he recommends a 228/230 .58x/ .59x 114 LSA XER lobe cam. This will give me a little less peak but good power under the curve and improved drivability over a larger cam. Most important, since my heads are milled .035 and have 60cc chambers I can not go much larger without flycutting, which I do not want to do. I think I will be happy with this and all boltons, 90/90 setup and EWP.

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What thickness head gasket you going with? You'll be happy with this cam. Tony ran a 224/228 XER on a 114+1 in a 346 and shifted it at 7100. Contrary to opinion, the 224/228 XER lobes will make power with AFR heads. Let us know how the package works out.
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Originally Posted by Chalky
What thickness head gasket you going with? You'll be happy with this cam. Tony ran a 224/228 XER on a 114+1 in a 346 and shifted it at 7100. Contrary to opinion, the 224/228 XER lobes will make power with AFR heads. Let us know how the package works out.
I believe he said stock gasket thickness (.045?). Sound right? Thanks

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Not sure myself. I think a stock head gasket is something like .054 or .057.

I believe the clearance get a little tight with your milled heads. Tony may have suggested a .045 for a little extra PTVC.

I was leaning towards the 228/232 before I found my 224/228.
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Originally Posted by ccajun4real
Thanks to all of you for your opinions. After talking to Tony Mamo he recommends a 228/230 .58x/ .59x 114 LSA XER lobe cam. This will give me a little less peak but good power under the curve and improved drivability over a larger cam. Most important, since my heads are milled .035 and have 60cc chambers I can not go much larger without flycutting, which I do not want to do. I think I will be happy with this and all boltons, 90/90 setup and EWP.

Cajun
Is Tony porting your FAST as well?
Old 07-12-2007, 05:13 PM
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I had the TR224 114 with stock LS1 heads and put down 370RWHP.

I changed that out for the 228R 114 and AFR heads milled .020 off to 62.5 CC and put down 425RWHP and 400 RWTQ and that was on a crappy tune.

I have the TV2 on the shelf and debating if I want to put it in or sell it
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Originally Posted by vettenuts
Is Tony porting your FAST as well?
No my FAST 90 is not ported, I have a P&P throttle body ported by Corey at LS2Portworks and the 85mm MAF. Also will be putting on an MTI UD pulley and Meziere EWP when the H/C install is done.

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